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Very,very good chance of finding a nice paying job. Took me "lets see" one day. lol.
Could you post some areas and companies to apply with and If you dont mind me asking, what is the pay rate.
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Big Red, I've thought about looking into hauling sand before, but I'm not sure I'd enjoy sitting around for hours on end waiting until they decide they're ready for you. How often do you get stuck sitting around? I've also heard varying accounts on how it pays, perhaps you could clear that up.

NFS, glad I could help, and I look forward to hearing an update from you soon!
Waterhauler, I work for Native...we've got water and sand trucks and we work hand in hand some of the time. The well we're working now has us doing the sand and the water guys doing the flowback at the same time.

The difference is that the sand drivers sit for longer periods of time while the water guys move pretty much all the time. One load a shift is fairly normal with two loads being a busy shift. I read a LOT!!!!!!! Pay rate is basically the same(hourly with O/T after 40) for both deals and we've got guys that switch back and forth to fill in on water when they need help. I'm averaging 60 to 70 hours per week on a 6 on 2 off work schedule. Good pay to say the least.

If you like to move all the time...I'd stay with water. If sitting doesn't bother you all that much...sand is a good deal. It's all in what suits you the best.

Our well was down last night for some reason or another...broke something and the well guys had to repair it. We sat all night. It came back up around daybreak. Still got paid though...it was just boring. The water drivers weren't even there till early this morning after the well came back up.

I can't speak for other companies because this is my first venture into this area of work. I have heard from a LOT of our drivers that we've got one of the best deals around pay wise.

Hope this helps you some.
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Waterhauler, I work for Native...we've got water and sand trucks and we work hand in hand some of the time. The well we're working now has us doing the sand and the water guys doing the flowback at the same time.

The difference is that the sand drivers sit for longer periods of time while the water guys move pretty much all the time. One load a shift is fairly normal with two loads being a busy shift. I read a LOT!!!!!!! Pay rate is basically the same(hourly with O/T after 40) for both deals and we've got guys that switch back and forth to fill in on water when they need help. I'm averaging 60 to 70 hours per week on a 6 on 2 off work schedule. Good pay to say the least.

If you like to move all the time...I'd stay with water. If sitting doesn't bother you all that much...sand is a good deal. It's all in what suits you the best.

Our well was down last night for some reason or another...broke something and the well guys had to repair it. We sat all night. It came back up around daybreak. Still got paid though...it was just boring. The water drivers weren't even there till early this morning after the well came back up.

I can't speak for other companies because this is my first venture into this area of work. I have heard from a LOT of our drivers that we've got one of the best deals around pay wise.

Hope this helps you some.
We helped last nite at one of your wells "im with "Premier" i ran 4 loads of flow back, and 2 loads from the pit,,,man, i hate being so green at this!! Hope i get alot smoother quick. I'll feel lots better when i know my way around. And driving at nite on those small roads is all new to me. Everyone i talk to says it comes with time.
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NoFearSpear,

I tried to PM you this but I need 50 posts, and if you want to answer more privately feel free to email me, brandon.a.simpson at gmail dot com

I am in school right now getting my CDL. I was curious though, I am debating going through with my training through C1 and then joining a water hauling company, but I am unsure about the pay for a green driver thats fresh out of school with a CDL. I already have my tanker, and Hazmat Endorsements I just have to finish the background check once I am actually issued my CDL.

How much does someone who is entirely green start off at? I am willing to work any hours, and overtime. Whenever.

You had just got your CDL when you first started also right? How much did they start you off at? Did you have any special provisions? I understand the nature of these questions is personal, but I really appreciate all your help.

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Laughwon, the areas around Fort Worth are where the drilling is going on in North Texas right now. Come on down and check it out. If you'll look through some of the earlier posts you'll find some info about waterhauling companies and general locations to find more.

Big Red, I appreciate the info. Sounds like hauling water is a little more my speed, but then again I'm about ready to get out of this altogether. A year's worth of working twelve hour shifts at night might've helped me pay off a lot of debt but it hasn't done much for my social life. Think it might be getting about time to get a normal job, but I suppose that's a discussion for an entirely different forum.

NFS, glad to hear you're liking it so far. I know I've thought of some other tips to give you, but they're not occurring to me at the moment. A lot of info I could give you may or may not apply depending on exactly how your company runs things. For example, the company I used to work for would have the hose and fittings to double hose, and on flowbacks I'd even been known to hook two hoses up to the frac tank, then hook one up to my gel line and go over the top. That's how I got more loads than any of the other drivers, and that's also how I've managed to get $3.50 an hour worth of raises in the last several months. The company I work with now, though, won't give me the fittings I need to double hose flowbacks, saying "one hose is fast enough."

Having said that, don't get yourself in too big of a hurry until you get your routine down. It just takes time. As you run the same roads some more you'll get more comfortable, it'll probably take a good three months to get good and comfortable with your roads and equipment. Keep in mind the tips I gave you about finding your turns. Always try to get landmarks from your pusher or dispatcher when going somewhere new so you can anticipate your turn. After awhile you can go somewhere you've never gone before and a road will just "look" like your turn. Also, when driving down unfamiliar roads, keep an eye out for skid marks from other tractor trailers, they'll alert you to surprise turns.

Finesse, starting pay for waterhauler is between $14 and $16 an hour, usually about $15. As mentioned before, you'll work twelve hour shifts, you'll start out on nights, and you'll probably work a 4 on/2 off schedule.
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I tried to PM you this but I need 50 posts, and if you want to answer more privately feel free to email me, brandon.a.simpson at gmail dot com

I am in school right now getting my CDL. I was curious though, I am debating going through with my training through C1 and then joining a water hauling company, but I am unsure about the pay for a green driver thats fresh out of school with a CDL. I already have my tanker, and Hazmat Endorsements I just have to finish the background check once I am actually issued my CDL.

How much does someone who is entirely green start off at? I am willing to work any hours, and overtime. Whenever.

You had just got your CDL when you first started also right? How much did they start you off at? Did you have any special provisions? I understand the nature of these questions is personal, but I really appreciate all your help.

Thank you,
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Feel free to shoot me an e-mail with any questions you have,,,i use yahoo,,,not hard to fig my e-mail addy.
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Laughwon, the areas around Fort Worth are where the drilling is going on in North Texas right now. Come on down and check it out. If you'll look through some of the earlier posts you'll find some info about waterhauling companies and general locations to find more.

Big Red, I appreciate the info. Sounds like hauling water is a little more my speed, but then again I'm about ready to get out of this altogether. A year's worth of working twelve hour shifts at night might've helped me pay off a lot of debt but it hasn't done much for my social life. Think it might be getting about time to get a normal job, but I suppose that's a discussion for an entirely different forum.

NFS, glad to hear you're liking it so far. I know I've thought of some other tips to give you, but they're not occurring to me at the moment. A lot of info I could give you may or may not apply depending on exactly how your company runs things. For example, the company I used to work for would have the hose and fittings to double hose, and on flowbacks I'd even been known to hook two hoses up to the frac tank, then hook one up to my gel line and go over the top. That's how I got more loads than any of the other drivers, and that's also how I've managed to get $3.50 an hour worth of raises in the last several months. The company I work with now, though, won't give me the fittings I need to double hose flowbacks, saying "one hose is fast enough."

Having said that, don't get yourself in too big of a hurry until you get your routine down. It just takes time. As you run the same roads some more you'll get more comfortable, it'll probably take a good three months to get good and comfortable with your roads and equipment. Keep in mind the tips I gave you about finding your turns. Always try to get landmarks from your pusher or dispatcher when going somewhere new so you can anticipate your turn. After awhile you can go somewhere you've never gone before and a road will just "look" like your turn. Also, when driving down unfamiliar roads, keep an eye out for skid marks from other tractor trailers, they'll alert you to surprise turns.

Finesse, starting pay for waterhauler is between $14 and $16 an hour, usually about $15. As mentioned before, you'll work twelve hour shifts, you'll start out on nights, and you'll probably work a 4 on/2 off schedule.
Thanks Man,,,everyday gets easyer. The hardest part is finding the tanks for now. Worked in Bowie last nite and used my GPS , it helped a lot,i could see the name of the street on the GPS before i could got there,and a can stamp the local so next time i have it saved.
The nite i did flow back we used two lines, and worked out nice.
I'm still kinda slow,only pulled 3 loads last nite,but remember i went to Bowie and had to hunt down everything like the Mustang to unload " pump 4 was broken and got timed out twice!!! Lol. Oh,,and my hot hose on the truck poped and had to go to the yard and make a new one. Wont feel good about this till i can do this with even thinking about it. Im far from there now,,lol.
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I tried to PM you this but I need 50 posts, and if you want to answer more privately feel free to email me, brandon.a.simpson at gmail dot com

I am in school right now getting my CDL. I was curious though, I am debating going through with my training through C1 and then joining a water hauling company, but I am unsure about the pay for a green driver thats fresh out of school with a CDL. I already have my tanker, and Hazmat Endorsements I just have to finish the background check once I am actually issued my CDL.

How much does someone who is entirely green start off at? I am willing to work any hours, and overtime. Whenever.

You had just got your CDL when you first started also right? How much did they start you off at? Did you have any special provisions? I understand the nature of these questions is personal, but I really appreciate all your help.

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