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Old 03.08.2008
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If you drive a flatbed, maybe you will be paid a small amount to tarp your load but nothing for securing the load.
Thats a load of BS, I don't drive a flatbed but my company also doesn't pay me extra to shut the door on the trailer, it's expected of me. I can see it now, I'm driving down the interstate with the trailer door wide open, crap flying out the back. I look in the mirror and see the flashing lights. I pull over and Mr DOT man reading me the riot act. I'll just stop him in mid sentence only to tell him I didn't get paid extra to shut the door.
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About 2 weeks ago, I was making an early Monday delivery at a nearby bakery. I was unloading flour into the silo, and as I was finishing up one of the bakery's trucks pulled out pulling a van. As he pulled away from the dock, I noticed that the back door was open and it didn;t look like the load was strapped with the cross strap they use to secure it. Then I looked at his former parking spt at the dock, and about 30 trays of bread had fallen out of the back and onto the ground.

After putting two and two together (slowly cause it was early morning!) I ran after the truck, and caught him as he was waiting for a break in the traffic to get out onto the street. I told him he was losing bread and his load wasn't tied down, and he told me that he had tied it down. So I then told him that if he had, he was under the wrong trailer. He backed to the dock (slowly) and when I pulled away he was still picking up up bread and reloading the trailer.

Guess it wasn't an extra pay item for him either!!!
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Hate to be the bearer of bad news to all of you newby wantabe truckers, but if you are going to drive a truck today be prepared to do a lot of things for free. For the most part the only thing you will be paid for are the miles you drive. If you are a reefer driver you probably won't be paid for the time it takes you to wait at the truck wash and have your trailer washed out. If you drive a flatbed, maybe you will be paid a small amount to tarp your load but nothing for securing the load. If you drive a dry van you may get something for waiting at a dock but usually you have to give a couple of hours before it starts. Each company is different in what they will pay as far as layover pay goes...that is the time you sit waiting for a load, and sometimes it can be days, thats right you may sit for days and wait and maybe your company will throw you as little as $25. for a 24 hr period. In a nutshell, the American Trucker has allowed these companies to steal his time. There is no other industry that asks you to work and not be paid for your time. Why do you think these companies have to have recruiters? You will be frustrated on a daily basis. You will quit your job every day...in your mind that is, and eventually you will try for greener pastures at another company that promises you them. But, your frustrations will start again as soon as they start asking you to give your time for nothing. Believe me, the American trucking companies love this mileage only pay. Wake up drivers, we have become the new American Slave.
Im a wannabe as you can see and your post has not changed my mind one way or the other. I have had several jobs where I did extra work and didnt feel like I was compensated for it but I didnt sit around and Boo Hoo and whine about it. You have to have a positive attitude in whatever you do if you want to be successful in it. If you want to be compensated for everything you do then I suggest you become a lawyer so you can charge a $150 an hour. There is no reason for you to post your negativity on here just because your a disgruntled trucker having a bad day or a bad year.
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This is old news. Did you not know all this before you started driving? I'm a wannabe also, and know well enough that as a truck driver, you do not punch a time clock, and you are paid for the miles that you drive, and not for the time you sit. Been like that for a loooooong time. If you owned a business, would you pay someone for sitting and doing nothing? I don't think so. Unless you have a union job...which I had...your free time is just that...free. Bottom line is, I put the blame on the shippers and receivers for sitting, NOT the trucking companies.
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Im a wannabe as you can see and your post has not changed my mind one way or the other. I have had several jobs where I did extra work and didnt feel like I was compensated for it but I didnt sit around and Boo Hoo and whine about it. You have to have a positive attitude in whatever you do if you want to be successful in it. If you want to be compensated for everything you do then I suggest you become a lawyer so you can charge a $150 an hour. There is no reason for you to post your negativity on here just because your a disgruntled trucker having a bad day or a bad year.
There is a reason to post the negative side of trucking. And that is turnover! Yes turnover. So many people get into this business thinking...oh great I am going to see the country and get paid to do it. If it was so great why does this job have a turnover rate as much as 150%? I understand that a newby doesn't want to hear the negatives, but you need to know what you are getting into here. The life of an OTR driver is tough...and certainly not for the faint of heart. Boo Hoo? There's no Boo Hoo on my part...only reality my freind. If you want to bury your head in the sand go right ahead...and you will be one of the 150% turnover, or maybe you won't make it past your probationary period and you will have wasted time and money on a fantasy that does'nt exist. This job is tough, you will be frustrated, you will be living in a walkin closet without all of the comforts of home.
And as far as tying down a flatbed load...please! Of course All loads have to be secured. I don't need to say anymore about that. My thing is about not getting paid for work performed. Man, what is wrong with that. If we don't start to stand up for ourselves it will get worse. Freight rates have gone up significantly over the past 2 years...oh, your company won't tell you that, but driver pay hasn't. Stop working for free!
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There is a reason to post the negative side of trucking. And that is turnover! Yes turnover. So many people get into this business thinking...oh great I am going to see the country and get paid to do it. If it was so great why does this job have a turnover rate as much as 150%? I understand that a newby doesn't want to hear the negatives, but you need to know what you are getting into here. The life of an OTR driver is tough...and certainly not for the faint of heart. Boo Hoo? There's no Boo Hoo on my part...only reality my freind. If you want to bury your head in the sand go right ahead...and you will be one of the 150% turnover, or maybe you won't make it past your probationary period and you will have wasted time and money on a fantasy that does'nt exist. This job is tough, you will be frustrated, you will be living in a walkin closet without all of the comforts of home.
And as far as tying down a flatbed load...please! Of course All loads have to be secured. I don't need to say anymore about that. My thing is about not getting paid for work performed. Man, what is wrong with that. If we don't start to stand up for ourselves it will get worse. Freight rates have gone up significantly over the past 2 years...oh, your company won't tell you that, but driver pay hasn't. Stop working for free!
I agree with some of your comments and truckers should stand up for theirselves for what its worth. There is nothing wrong with gettn paid for what you do and as far as freight cost....I dont know of any job that gives raises to compensate for the cost of inflation but I can make better money than Im making now and when you live in the sticks like I do, trucking is the best oppurtunity around here without driving an hour or more to get a decent job and with gas prices today I just cant do that.
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Bobo must be a union man. I can hear him now. "No, I am NOT going to put fuel in the truck because I won't be paid extra for it. Besides, that's a job for the fuel putter-inner's union"

It's part of the job therefore you think of it as figured into the payscale. any driver worth his salt knows that you don't sit around and think about what you are and are not getting paid for, because you'll drive yourself crazy.
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Naw, Bobo has Jimmy Hoffa Jr come in and personally fuel his truck for him each nite.
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There is no other industry that asks you to work and not be paid for your time.
Oh really? I thought of one in about 1 second. Maybe you can put that mind of yours to better use and see if you can think of it too.
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if you will (discretely) tell me where you are, I'll come to your rescue with a set of bolt cutters and put you on the underground railroad for passage to the north. I jis hope massa don't find out!
Too funny!
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