General advice for new students (this is how it works)

Discussion in 'Trucking Schools and CDL Training Forum' started by Igneouss, Sep 6, 2014.

  1. Igneouss

    Igneouss Bobtail Member

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    Having read a bunch of newbie posts I have noticed some common misconceptions. I'll try to nail a few here and maybe some others might chime in...

    Here's the process:
    (prerequisits: basically clean driving record and a decent employment record. No felonies, DUIs, drug arrests etc. There are a few exceptions to this but it will be an uphill battle. They WILL check. You WILL be drug tested)

    1) Get your CDL student permit. This is all on you and you have to do this before you go to school. Go to your local DMV and ask. They will explain it to you.
    You will need to pass several tests. Some sort of general knowledge test, air brakes, endorsements like hazmat, tankers, doubles and triples...
    You need to do this shortly before going to school. Some companies might not hire you if the tests are way old. Check with companies you might want to drive for and find out what endorsements they require. You can get the endorsements later but it's a hassle.

    2) Go to school. There are all sorts of options. Company schools, private schools, 3, 4, 5, 12 week schools. Expensive schools and cheap schools. Search this site for reviews. Choose carefully. There are some really crappy schools out there.
    You could, of course just go take the DMV test for your CDL, BUT unless you have experience driving a truck you will have no hope of passing. Even if you do pass, most companies will either tell you to go to school anyway or put you in a 'boot camp'. In short it's very unlikely you can pass on your own and get a decent job without going to school.

    3) Find a job. Either before you start school or during. If you wait more than a month or so after school is over, companies might not hire you. It looks bad to them. But it's easy to find jobs. Any decent school will have recruiters and job announcements hanging around. Many companies will offer to hire you on the condition you finish school. Typically, they want you to go to specific schools, so check. Some will pay your way in all or part. There are a handful of big companies that hire new grads. Do your homework. Call the companies and ask. Never be afraid to call companies or schools. They generally love talking to newbies.

    4) School is important. Soak up everything you can about life as a trucker. Understand that you will be tested by a DMV for your CDL. So learn that stuff carefully. Even after that, new employers will also test you. Then you will most likely drive with a finisher for a month or more. This is training/testing too. If the finisher thinks your an idiot/dangerous then you could be out even after completing all of the above.

    5) At every step, be humble and ask questions. Schools, trainers, companies see tons of newbies that act like the worlds greatest trucker. They roll their eyes and put your paperwork on the bottom of the pile. Truckers need to be calm and even tempered. If you are excitable then do your best to turn it off. At every step you are always being assessed on safety. If you show any tendency to road rage or panic you will likely be tossed out at the first sign. Think about it: if you owned a $150k truck and trailer with a valuable cargo, who would you feel comfortable turning loose with it?

    6) Long term: Some things you need to get used too right away: Chances are that carrying a gun is cause for immediate termination. Getting a CDL entails losing some civil rights. For example, police can search your truck without cause. The feds will track your safety record. On tough bone is that 'fault' is not a big factor in accidents etc. It goes on your record. What they are looking for is patterns of unsafe behavior. In other words, you can be terminated for events that were 'not your fault'. You are expected to avoid accidents regardless of 'fault'.

    7) A lot has changed in the industry in recent years. Stay up to date. Most big companies are far far safer these days than they used to be. You will likely have an electronic log. Your truck might well have cameras installed. You will need to stay clean and understand that you are a representative of your company. The bad old days of fudging paper logs and driving zillions of miles are just about gone.

    8 ) Drive for a year without changing companies. Take your time and the future will be better. Fantasizing about owning your own truck? You can do it but you can also lose everything. So don't rush it until you have a solid handle on how to make it work. Remember: if it's to good to be true, it likely is. This is not an industry that has 'easy money' available. No matter what route you take you will have to work hard at it.
     
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  3. MsJamie

    MsJamie Road Train Member

    Don't bother with hazmat while you have your permit. You won't need it for training, it's fairly expensive, and if your school tests in a different state, you'll lose it. (Hazmat doesn't transfer.)

    Also, you may be able to have your company pay for it if you need it...
     
  4. Powder Joints

    Powder Joints Subjective Prognosticator

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    Get all your endorsements, Hazmat and TWIC. Hazmat is around 125.00 I think. Same advise I gave my own son, and he has boh Twics and Hazmat. why do you want to go back to get it. Take the yest while your there.
     
  5. fireba11

    fireba11 Heavy Load Member

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    Get your CDL on your own. Going through a company program to get your cdl makes you indebted to that company for 6-12 months and if you quit before hand, you will owe alot of money to them.

    Be prepared to stay out up to 6 months before you get back home once a company hires you!

    Don't go to school with no money in your pocket. If the school is not local then you will be required to pay for your housing and meals.
     
  6. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    Some companies provide lodging and meals.
     
  7. Pahrump

    Pahrump Medium Load Member

    if you get your class A CDL look at jobs driving that only have straight trucks class B work,good experience and some pay as well as driving class A work, keep your license clean and follow your companies rules,,don't try to buck or beat the system. If you want their money play by their rules and most important run legal don't get hurried work safe, and if you want to do drugs don't become a truck drivers,,maybe after a few years you will become a trucker
     
  8. broodmom

    broodmom Light Load Member

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    Based on my son's experience with his new company, which is an OK one, be flexible, be prepared for stuff happening, be prepared to sit for hours or days while your truck is fixed, don't count on instant wealth. And be sure you really want to be gone weeks at a time, especially the first couple of months while training. Any job is tough when you're starting out, but trucking is especially hard. It's not a picnic. But my son turns out to love the job, is glad to have the home time, but will be happy to get back on the road. I kind of hope he's gotten the bad part out of the way (waiting a week for a trainer, 7-day breakdown over the holiday weekend on his first solo run, etc.) If this is the worst that happens, I expect him to do well. He kept his sense of humor and had a good trainer. He's naturally a good driver, not a careless one, so that heps, and he learns from every experience. And he came home in a good mood so he must like the job.
     
  9. Igneouss

    Igneouss Bobtail Member

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    At Con-way:
    If you go to one of their recommended schools they will pay 50% of costs (transportation, food, lodging, tuition). If you do not graduate or make it to Con-way then you owe the money back to Con-way. Assuming you hire on and complete 7,500 +/- miles with a trainer, then after you haul one load the debt is forgiven. That's something like 5 weeks after you graduate.

    Obviously, every company is different. Some have no in house training or tuition assistance. Some might reimburse you for some or all of your training. Some will expect you to work for up to a year or risk paying it back. Paying it out of pocket does give you more flexibility.

    Moral of the story is to do your homework before you jump in.

    Other options: Military GI bill will pay for some or all of the schooling. If you are on unemployment, some states will pay some or all of the costs. There are also private student loans. I heard, but have not verified that government student loans (Pell grants etc) generally are not applicable to these programs.

    If you identify a few schools they can give you advice on funding options including which companies are known to help students.
     
  10. FuzzFace2

    FuzzFace2 Medium Load Member

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    It depends on the school you go to if you need the CDL permit before you start or not.
    The school I am in, in the first 2 weeks preps you for taking the combination/air brake/ general knowledge tests.
    It is up to the student to go take/pay for them at the DMV.

    The school also gives DOT MED cards as part of the price. Yes it is not cheap, 540 hours and if after that time you still do not have your CDL you can stay in school till you do at no extra $$. Oh because it is 540 hours you can get a student loan but you must keep up your GPA and show up every day and on time.
    Dave ----
     
  11. schatman1276

    schatman1276 Bobtail Member

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    I am currently in CDL school and have heard mixed things about the question I am about to ask. I got a DUI 12 years ago and I am concerned about what may happen once I get my CDL. Some say that after 10 years it does not affect job prospects as much and others say it is a death sentence in the trucking industry. Any advice would be appreciated. I have no felonies, some misdemeanors, and no accidents or tickets but did get caught driving with no license 3 separate times between 2003 and 2008 but have been violation free since and I plan on going to the oil fields
     
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