Generc Question About Cost Of Engine Replacement

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  1. bbmyls2go

    bbmyls2go Medium Load Member

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    I have a vintage Mack firetruck powered by a gasoline Thermodyne 6 cylinder dual system that in addition to being almost 50 years old, has 24000 miles on it. I just bought it and what i hoped would be a quick fix to a power and backfiring problem is getting expensive. From what I read, a re-build would NOT be the best answer as I would have to many other components that are not replaced and ready for failure.
    My question - just a ball park figure - is what would I find to be the cost of replacing the engine? Anyone here replace one of their big rig engines and can give me an idea? I know there are going to be differences depending on what engine goes in (gas or deisel) and what size, but I'm not looking for specifics. 10k? 15k? 20k?
    I need to know where to draw the line on this "toy" before it becomes to much of a money pit.
     
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  3. Trouble65

    Trouble65 Medium Load Member

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    To many veriables to consider. You could buy a good used Cummins, Cat or Detroit with ECU for around $8,000.
    Then there are other expenses:
    Transmission, drive shafts, mounting bracket, power steering and the list goes on.

    Best thing to do is take it in and ask a repair shop for an estimate.
     
  4. Superhauler

    Superhauler TEACHER OF MEN

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    my experince with all the toys i bought over the yrs is they are all money pits the cost wasnt the issue how much fun will you have with it.
     
  5. AUSSIE DAVE

    AUSSIE DAVE Road Train Member

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    Ditto :yes2557:. anywhere from zero $ upwards. enjoy the experience and spend what you can afford

     
  6. ol Bullet

    ol Bullet Bobtail Member

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    If you haven't done so already (or are already a member) - check for info through local antique fire apparatus organization/s.

    They usually all belong to the National organization - "SPAAMFAA"
    (Google that for the site, links, etc.).

    ~
     
  7. Heavyd

    Heavyd Road Train Member

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    Pictures?
    Your situation is 100% custom, no real good example to go on. If you put a different engine in and have to change mounts, trans, driveshaft, electrical and so on, you could be looking at 80+ hours.
     
  8. bbmyls2go

    bbmyls2go Medium Load Member

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    thanks for the replies - I've been a bit busy. I've already put $2700 into a full bumper to bumper inspection and maintenance of all the basics (hoses, belts, ignition system (new points, plugs ,dist), oil change, coolant flush...). That was supposed to include trouble shooting and repair of the power problem and they did work on the carb and gave me the keys. Drove off and hit the first hill and lost power, had backfiring, AHHGGG! Went back and the Mack shop said it probably needs a carb rebuild and sorry, we dont do them. Took it to SE Deisel (Chattanooga) and they will look at it for me but are dragging their feet - 3 weeks and they are still "estimating" what a full timing inspection may cost (yes, Mack replaced all the points, plugs etc, but did not check the timing - never going to Mack again).
    I've since found that a carb rebuild should be under $500 but still have no idea about any repair to timing components. I had bought after being told by the department who ran it, that it was in "great shape", but then it sat for a year and it aint so great right now, LOL! Still lookin for an old time Mack afficianado in the SE who I could hire as a mechanic so I don't have to rely on a deisel shop to repair my gas engine. oh well! will try to attach a couple of pix and yes ol Bullet, I am a member of SPAMFAA and am also on the bigmacktrucks forum, thanks for mentioning that though, I will likely end up trying to find another local collector thru the site (most seem to be up in the north east).
     

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  9. Cowpie1

    Cowpie1 Road Train Member

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    Check these guys out for an engine. They may even have something more like what you are trying to replace. Their prices are pretty good on stuff I have bought from them in the past. I would bet they could come up with just about any part you were looking for to rebuild/restore an older truck. They are probably the largest used parts supplier in the Midwest. Check out the locations section on their website and the aerial photos of the locations and see if it doesn't look like they would have just about any part you would want.

    http://www.vanderhaags.com/index.htm
     
  10. Heavyd

    Heavyd Road Train Member

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    I am sorry about your situation. Seeing it is a cab over is really going to add to complexity of changing or working on the engine. Does the cab tilt forward on one of these? A little humor, but maybe you could backdate the restoring and have it pulled by horses instead! LOL, just kidding!
     
  11. bbmyls2go

    bbmyls2go Medium Load Member

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    Heavyd - no, it's not a cabover, its a midengine - the 'doghouse' between the rear facing jumpseats is the access to the engine. I'm not sure if removal would require lifting off the roof of the open cab and picking it up, or raising the vehicle and dropping it.
    not sure if making it horse drawn would eliminate the amount of s*** I have to put up with to get it in a parade though!
     
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