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52,000 GVW

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by davenjeip, Aug 9, 2010.

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  1. Aug 9, 2010 #1
    davenjeip

    davenjeip Medium Load Member

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    Been looking at a lot of trucks on TruckPaper and have a dumb question.

    Noticed that there are a lot of trucks listed as having a 52,000# GWW, yet appear to be the same as ones listed for 80,000#.

    Is there something more under the skin that I am not seeing to account for the lower rating, or is it just a registration thing?
     
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  3. Aug 9, 2010 #2
    Working Class Patriot

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    Technically 52K is correct for the tractor if you could just load a tractor.......

    A ten-wheeler dump truck in CA is typically rated for 50K gross....But for a few hundred $$....You can get it bumped to 52K.....

    If you buy a Twin prop rated 34K rears and 12.K Steers....You tug a two axle trailer whether tandem or spread...You can legally gross to 80K...
     
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    rocknroll nik Thanks this.
  4. Aug 9, 2010 #3
    Superhauler

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    its usually the axle ratings added together.
     
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  5. Aug 9, 2010 #4
    black_dog106

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    Just as these guys have said, i am assuming 12K front and 40K rears for your 52K truck or tractor gvw. There are a million (maybe more :biggrin_25524: ) variables in specs that affect gvw.
     
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  7. Aug 9, 2010 #5
    davenjeip

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    Isn't that typical for a normal 80,000# rig? I'm figuring you're allowed 12K front, 32K rear and 32K trailer, so I'm actually getting more confused that I was before.

    Are all these trucks a lighter spec, or is it just the salesman adding up the axles, without any consideration for the trailer, and leaving it at that?

    Many of these would make some pretty nice trucks, if I could hook a 53' van behind them and run right at 80,000#.
     
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  8. Aug 9, 2010 #6
    lostNfound

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    There's your answer.
     
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  9. Aug 9, 2010 #7
    davenjeip

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    Thanks.

    After I posted up, it suddenly made sense to me and opens up the doors to a whole lot more trucks for sale. Actually, it seems that those listed as 52,000# GVW are a little cheaper, maybe because the salesman doesn't understand what they have.

    I'll never have a need to slap on a dump bed, as I'd be pulling a 53' van, so I'm not seeing any reason why one of these wouldn't work for me.
     
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  10. Aug 9, 2010 #8
    Superhauler

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    its the rating of your axles not what the states say you can haul (example you might have a 40000 lb rear axles but the dot only will allow 34000 lbs on the rear axles. unless you haul specialized then you can permit for what a state will allow on the axles.
     
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  11. Aug 9, 2010 #9
    Krooser

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    You can have a GVWR of over 52K but you may have to have a permit to haul it... example a 16F 44 rears would obviously 60 GVWR but you'll only be legal at 80K with a trailer. Most tandem axle trailers are rated at around 55,000 lb..
     
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    Working Class Patriot

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    Exactly....you can spec out a T800H to have a 20K steering axle....but that doesn't mean you can run it un-permitted to 20K......:biggrin_25523:
     
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