Friday 13 story 2006 Volvo Truck, Volvo engine

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by Narcis.M, Oct 17, 2010.

  1. Riverstick

    Riverstick Light Load Member

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    Just read all of the thread.....EGR sounds like the problem here...Take it off,block it up and that should sort your MPG. Disgusted to hear how Volvo stripped your engine to bits and extracted US$28,000 dollars for futile work. I have had several D12's cover in excess of two million kms without any problems. I remember looking into one with the head off at 1.5 million km in a customers workshop...it turned out to be a misdiagnosis on behalf of the technician involved....the internals were in pristine condition...the honing marks were still evident on the block...in fact you could have sold the engine as a 200,000 mile engine with confidence. These are a superb engine,but as Pablo UA said...they are very complicated.

    I lived and worked in the US 24 years ago,and the problem I found with imported/foreign cars(European & Japanese)at that time was the cost of parts,which quiet frankly were exorbitant. The second problem was the lack of expertise. As what happened with the Volvo D12 here,they cannot fix them efficiently,they start guessing and replacing parts bits by bit....to no avail in most cases. The D12 is an excellent engine here in Europe....but I'm not so sure I'd run one if I were trucking in the US.

    And on the otherside,Cummins,Caterpillar and Detroit big diesels are excellent products.....the backup in Europe is dire for them though...expensive and very poor technical experise...I was recently quoted US$800 for a Water pump for a 14 litre Cummins here in Ireland...and also told it would take two or three weeks to get....Pittsburgh Power were able to supply an Original Cummins part off the shelf for $165.

    I think its a case of 'When in Rome,do as the Romans do'.....in other words,operate a US engine in the US and a European engine in Europe. There does seem to be the odd exception here and there where a workshop has good technicians who can 'think' and diagnose,rather than guess and grow rich....at some other guys expense
     
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  3. xiipercent

    xiipercent Medium Load Member

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    your's has the twin egr?

    This fix covers both egr's ?

    Mine has been throwing codes every day since my overhead 9 days ago.

    FMI 13 - out of calibration

    If it contiunes , i'm going to book a load to Yakima: I can pay you top shop rates to show me the ropes on this fix.
     
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  4. Scania man

    Scania man Road Train Member

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    Surely you have consumer rights over there, I'd pay a visit to a lawyer and see where you stand, it shouldn't matter even if the truck was bought without warranty it was sold to you with these problems, I wish you luck on getting the issue resolved
     
  5. bigdrip

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    yes i have the d12d dual egr engine...and this has solved the out of calibration issues and fault code probs on the egrs.

    i also recommend drilling 1/4 to 3/8 inch hole in the center of the plug. my truck seems to idle smoother with a 1/4 in hole.

    hole or no hole this solution works. i'm now at 852479 miles, still plugged and running great!
     
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  6. bigdrip

    bigdrip Bobtail Member

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    Riverstick:

    that's a bad idea taking the egr sytem off of a d12. truck will be derated and not to mention the legal issues in the US. it is better to plug the system in such a way that it is not obviously disabled.
     
  7. Scania man

    Scania man Road Train Member

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    Riverstick is right, I owned older volvos with the d12 engines and no egr, they were trouble free and had good fuel economy, I drove a new Renault magnum with a Volvo engine with egr and the power was terrible and so was the fuel economy, the owner is not happy with it at all! I think this egr is ruining engines, I can't see how they are better for the envoirnment! I mean ok less carbon particles in the emissions but if it's using much more fuel what's the point ?only costing us more money!
     
  8. bigdrip

    bigdrip Bobtail Member

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    i agree the egr is ruining this engine. but if you remove the egr system then you are in violation of epa regulations and subject to shut down and huge fines. I live in california so that option would not work for me...also if you remove the egr system components then you also have to find someone that is willing to de-egr the ecm other wise you will derate the engine.

    d12d is the same exact engine as d12 a-c non-egr only diff is egr components and egr programming. same head, turbine and everything else. no shop that i know of in the US will remove egr programing from the ecm because of legal reasons though.
     
  9. bigdrip

    bigdrip Bobtail Member

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    plug the egr crossover and you get the same effect as removing the egr components with out the costs and headaches.

    the other big bonus is no more soot on your trailer....i don't understand how they say that egr engines are cleaner when they lay out big ol clouds behind the truck while under acceleration, and consume more fuel. (just my twisted thinking)
     
  10. Scania man

    Scania man Road Train Member

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    Your thinking ain't twisted, it really makes no sense, they are a dirtier engine plus they are fuel junkies, seems to me like it's a great way to raise tax revenue , they def ain't kinder to the envoirnment!

    Riverstick had a great saying about egr engines, he said " you can't expect an athlete to perform if he's inhaling his own farts, an engine also needs fresh air" it's so true,
     
  11. Cruisser

    Cruisser Bobtail Member

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    I also have a Volvo and sounds like the same problem...no mileage, runs great, maybe a little low on power, but cant get out of the 5s ....even with no load!. Had one EGR replaced as it was throwing codes but it made absolutely no different, lots of black smoke when I climb hills.

    Very frustrating problem......I hope you found a solution! If so can you tell me what it was?
     
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