Ontario Canada WB Question

You better forget about going to Canada if your truck WB longer then 244''. I live in NW and considered taking loads to Canada and I am still licensed for BC and AB. If your WB is 244 or shorter the legal overall lenght in Canada is 23 meters. If longer then 244 you can buy a permit to go to BC for example but your overall lenght (bumper to bumper) must be around 20 meters. In case you pull 53' van or reefer there is no way you can make it legal. I am not sure if 48' van can make an overall lenght legal. In my case with a 270'' WB my legal overall lenght is 20 meters or 65.5 feet. So as you can see if you want to go to Canada best way to buy a truck with a WB not exeeding 244''.

 

This gives me another valid reason to not go to Canada!

 

Basically if your truck was built in 2005 or earlier your wheel base can be as long as you want, but the overall length of the truck still can't exceed the 75 feet. If your truck was built in 2006 or later your maximum wheel base for the truck is 244 inches.

As for permits, she is kinda right. If you are just an average Joe with a big truck that exceeds 244" and it is newer than 2006 hauling a normal load, no you can't come into Ontario, sorry. Ontario does recognize "special" carriers because of past contracts/hauling relations and will issue permits for special moves. You can still get permits, but you really have to be hauling something out of the ordinary and mechanically need a truck with a wheel base over 244". You have to prove it prior.
Here is what I found;
"Long Wheelbase Tractors Ontario Regulation 413/05 have reaffirmed Ontario's preference in restricting the wheelbase of tractor units to the 6.20 metre national standard. The wheelbase dimension is measured from the centre of the steer axle to the centre of the drive axle group (typically the middle of the drive axles). Carriers specialized in the transportation of oversize/overweight (O/O) indivisible loads will frequently operate overlength tractors to accommodate additional axles, heavier duty suspensions, and/or sliding fifth wheel assemblies for proper weight distribution. These requirements are generally acknowledged by our Ministry, and these carriers are routinely authorized to operate this fleet of specialized vehicles for routine "permitted" transportation of lighter O/O loads. This accommodation, however, is not intended to inadvertently authorize operation of overlength tractors equipped with large sleeper berths or living quarters, frequently utilized in other jurisdictions.
Permit issuing staff have been instructed to verify tractor wheelbase dimensions and should they suspect that a carrier is unnecessarily utilizing an overlength tractor, they are to ask for clarification and/or support documentation defining the requirements for the overlength tractor. Rationale such as on-board generators are frequently unjustified due to their compact size and abundant availability of portable rental units suitable for most applications. Carriers should expect to provide a photograph of the combination in support of their justification."
http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/trucks/oversize/guide.shtml#tractor
http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/regs/english/elaws_regs_050413_e.htm#BK70

 

Well hell... I've been running Ab, Sk, Mb On, Qc and NB for 2 1/2 years with a 270 in w/b but I pull a 42 ft DD and am right at 64ft 6in.

I have w/b permits for Ab, Sk, Mb and Qc. I guess I better find out what On has to say about that....I've been through On scales quite a bit, even got a Level 1 in Sk and they didn't even ask for my permit.

 

What year is your truck? I see 03 379 in your sig, so 2003?. If your truck is under a 2005 you can be longer than 244! Unless the inspector at the scales wants to get out and measure the wheel base they probably see your well under max length and don't care.

 

Ontario and BC laws are different, even though it is all Canada. Gets confusing pretty quickly.

 

You certainly wouldn't want uniform regulations country wide! That would make far too much sense!

 

You mean like the uniform regulations in the U.S.?