Is 10 MPG Possible with a Fully Loaded (80K gross) 5 Axle Truck?

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  1. Dice1

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    Thank You!
     
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    Good deal and thank you!
     
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    I am the first tractor in the country to have this done. My only reference is the friends in the NASCAR industry that use in house basically the same process of micro-polishing and the coating side is secret. As you know the NASCAR guys are 1 race and change it, so the longevity question will be on my truck or you guys can call MicroBlue for more information.

    My understanding is that the Micro-polishing smoothes out the metal and the coating helps suspend lubricant on the metal parts where the part virtuely never touch with a skim of lubricant between everything. No touch, No Friction and No Wear!

    As far as new or old, I don't believe it matters because metal to metal surfaces is the same in all trucks.

    Yes, I have went over Black Mountain, Jellico and the gourge in NC along with my dedicated route has small mountains in AL to climb. You can't compare East Coast Mountains to West Coast Mountains if that is your reference.

    Call MicroBlue to get more technical information. I have only been using it since July 1st and I love it.
     
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    575 Miles using 40.97 Gallons = 14.04 MPG!!

    I just wish I could do that pulling a trailer!


    Filled up yesterday after taking a Nasty UnAerodynamic Oversized Load to Miami, FL while Bobtailing back in Port Saint Lucie, FL Flying J and bobtailed to the Flying J in Rock Hill, SC to use 40.97 gallons on 575 miles for a 14.04 MPG run.


    The rates stunk for everything coming out of FL and nothing was going near Charlotte, NC along with I quoted the Oversize Load as a roundtrip to get back to get my next dedicated run tomorrow.


    Plus I told somebody that owned a motorhome I could get better MPG bobtailing than they can and I did. There is guys with empty dually pick up trucks that don't get this good a mileage!
     
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    Frictional losses in a truck from all sources(a/c, alternator, rear end, trans, etc) are roughly 10% If you used zero friction bearings(they don't exist) and zero friction gears(they don't exist either), the most a truck getting 5mpg could even theoretically gain would be .5mpg. The poster of these ridiculous claims is compensated by the company selling the product, Where are thescientific and independent verifications of these claims? In La-La Land.
     
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    I have to say as the claims got better the more sceptical I got, I don't want to take away from dice1's achievement but I'm starting to not believe it, I have to agree with you I think it's wishful thinking , 14 mpg on the bounce ( even by our measures ) is normal! 9 mpg at the weight you guys can carry isn't anything extraordinary either, but then again your dice's truck was doing very badly on fuel to begin with so it may well have done the trick, I guess I would have to see it with my own eyes to believe it, I hope it's true, I'm not knocking it but why aren't all the manufactures using it? Especially over here where diesel is $9.55 a gallon approx
     
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    Polishing is good but have you ever seen tried to clear coat a polished surface? Or seen rain bead up on a freshly waxed hood? That is how oil will react to a polished surface to a certain degree but these modern oils are designed to not run off right away. I've had my oil pan off 2 weeks and there's still oil running down and when I pull a bearing cap there's plenty of oil still in in there.

    I would like a real scientific explanation of what the coating is made of. I just took out a set of PTFE (Teflon) coated bearings. I don't believe they make a difference in mileage. They do help with dry starts though.

    That soft water explanation is irrelevant because you are not polishing and coating your skin. Hard water has lots of minerals in it. Your oil doesn't contain comparable grit.

    Trade secret must be filed away with the VADA 3000 secret.:biggrin_25513:
     
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    How do you know as per your quote "roughly 10%" the loss to friction and drag are. Your term used "roughly" sounds like a quess? Most truck dynos ESTIMATE a 15% to 30% HP loss through the drivetrain alone and that depends on what the dyno operator wants to use. The only way to prove how much loss there really is would almost be impossible to do by dynoing the motor only on the same dyno back to back with the motor in the truck so weather doesn't become a factor on dyno numbers. I doubt you will even find a dyno anywhere that can do both.

    Please go back and read ALL improvements I have done and no where am I claiming going from 5 MPG to 9+ MPG by just MicroBlue alone.

    You will find just changing driving habits was the biggest and first gain made that put me into the mid 7s MPG range with mechanical improvements after that including PP Turbo, PP Exhaust Manifold, airtabs, deflecktor wheel covers, Fleet Air Filter and finally MicroBlue did give a major gain, but it was not all of it and was not the biggest gain.

    Driving habits is the biggest and a bad driver with bad driving habits can take a truck getting great mileage make into an average truck.

    As far as the other improvements, the Fleet Air Filter was probably the best ROI and the PP turbo and exhaust manifold that the CAT motor badly needs was a good ROI too!

    If anybody doubts my numbers and/or wants to see what improvements I have made with results including actual truck odometer readings with fuel stops and actual fuel used/cost with notes on every fill up including weather, traffic, temperture, avg speed, load notes and even mechanical problems that hurt mileage, it is all on https://mygauges.com and my truck name is "Dice.s Truck" there. I have posted all my fuel numbers and mechanical changes since the end of January this year.

    MyGauges is a great website that you can post your fuel mileage and compare with other trucks like yours. There is over 3,000 trucks fuel mileage posted there and all you have to do is get a log in by posting your truck on there. A great website to use when trying to get better MPG out of your truck and it is FREE!!!!!!

    Believe it or not, just do your research before making unqualified statements that is obvious you have not read the entire thread.

    I hope everybody was smart enough to notice I was BOBTAILING when I got the 14.04 MPG and it was on some of the flatest roads in the country from FL on I95, I26 and I77 to SC.

    For our European friends here, BOBTAILING means without a trailer and is the tractor only.
     
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    Let me add Micro-polishing and coatings applied directly to the metal surfaces comes straight out of the racing Industry.

    I was looking for Ceramic Bearings and found MicroBlue through my friends that work in NASCAR shops. I don't know if any of you noticed, I am from the Charlotte, NC area where 95% of the NASCAR teams are based with alot other racing support shops here also from Indy Cars to NHRA to even Formula 1 has all had technology developed here. I have years of racing experience myself including 2 National Go-kart Racing Championships back in the 80s, some NASCAR Sportsman Divison and ARCA Superspeedway experience back in the 90s that led to even some radio controlled car Racing back in the 2000s where we used ceramic wheel bearings for a competitive advantage.

    My truck is the first in the country using MicroBlue that I discovered looking for something else. This has been around racing for around 15 years and has developed and evolved over that time too. It is brand new to the trucking industry because nobody has put the 2 together before.

    There is several trucks installing bearings now and even another set of rear ends being installed, but since I was the first with the bearings only in since July 1st and the Rear Ends were installed this first of this month, you guys don't have alot to go on but my results until the others post up.

    You can either have patience and wait on the others or trust what I tell you because I have no reason to lie about my results and I have tested other products from fuel additives to a hydrogen generator to the Turbo3000d Vada that I know don't work. I don't sugarcoat anything!

    If you make a mecahnical improvement and can't feel a difference driving it for the first time, you can pretty much tell it will not work before you even fill up the first time.
     
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