Peterbilt 579 vs KW 680

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  1. Oram

    Oram Medium Load Member

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    The higher price of the new trucks explained with the luxurious new features, like heated-cooled seats, automatic air-conditioner control, super quiet cab, triple sealed door, full colored driver information center and like so.
    The twins: According to Paccar, they spent 400 million dollars on the new platform. Probably they do not have the money to spend the same amount on each brand. They have about 28% market share together. Look how much money is spent by Volvo on developments from their 10% market share. An extra piece of plastic on the mirror and an extension on the skirt in the last 10 years. They did not change the platform for 15.
    MX engine. Totally unproved. The DAF engine actually was very bad one until 2009. They changed after that, and this is what we have as MX. Probably it will be better. How much? How long? Nobody knows yet. But here is a couple information, from the manufacturers, just to think about. On line haul operation, with gross weight close to 80,000 pounds the DD15 is more economical than the DD13! The Cummins 12liter use more fuel at 425HP than the Cummins 15! And we talk about the fuel only. Can you imagine the wear and tear to? Why anybody think 12.4 liter maxxforce, the paccar 12.9 liter will do the job in long term?
    Ugly trucks: I have seen some beautiful trucks and these twins are not one of them. But my favorite truck is which leaves the most money in my pocket at the and of the year. Call me a steering will holder or whatever, I am a small business owner. If somebody want to spend his or her money on a big nose and crome, it is perfectly fine. Accept the fact you are mixing your hobby with your job. This is my job and I have a different hobby. I do not think I am stupid because of it.
    Automatic, automated transmission: Great, comfortable, smart, efficient.......I can do better.
    And the Pete 579 looks better, but as for now, my next truck will be KW T680 with Cummins.
     
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  3. cowboy_tech

    cowboy_tech Road Train Member

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    They are looking toward Europe I'm afraid. The tech used in those trucks will make it here.

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  4. Working Class Patriot

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    So we're all going to be driving Single-Screws COE's...That's what most tractors in Europe are...Good luck with a single-screw running the Rockies in winter.....:biggrin_2556:
     
  5. JBT

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    A locked single-screw with tag axle lifted will outrun the twin-screw without diff locks in the winter.

    A 4x2 truck or one with pusher axle which are the most common ones in Europe will get stuck in rockies in the winter.
     
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    Really....You haven't seen all of those Fed-EX rigs in the ditch on I-80 in WY have you....I'm not talking about "outrunning"...I'm talking traction and being safe in winter....
     
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    Btw...The majority of twin-screws have "Lockers" on them....Otherwise they're not "Tag" axles.....They're "Drag" axles....
     
  8. George C

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    I asked the same question to KW VP of sales at MATS, and they have no intentions of shelving the W900L. "If it sells, and it sells well, we'll keep building it". I imagine the same can be said for the 389.

    The part the oil business that our Government refuses to clarify (because oil profits and gov't elections go hand in hand) is this:
    As long as there is trillions upon trillions of gallons of crude reserves in the ground, fuel costs will always be relative. If we as a nation consume less oil, then the price of oil goes up. Use less, costs more...Has anyone ever pulled up to a pumps and was refused fuel because of a "shortage"?. Nothing monetary will be gained by conservation, it's all about net profit and net taxes. The Arabs will still profit the same on less produced, higher taxes per gallon will generate more revenue on less produced.

    Do you actually think our Gov't or the OPEC nations will settle for less profit from reduced consumption? Oil amounts refined are the least concern. It just sells the lefties....
     
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  9. LBZ

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    Was curious if the KW 680 would have different roof options? From what they showed during the release, there is a day cab on the right of this video that could be the ugliest day cab they have ever released.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikD3-7LRfMw&feature=related[/ame]
     
  10. cowboy_tech

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    I was thinking more on the lines of them putting out trucks with all in house engines and transmissions. They could then make sure the electronics in all the components work together 100%. The bad news will be a lack of choice for power plants and auto shifts being the norm.

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  11. JBT

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    The Fedex trucks are 4x2 which is not a good configuration for driving on slippery winter roads. If you have a 6x2 where you can lift the tag axle (not a pusher axle) you will have more traction than a 6x4 (twin-screw) and far more traction than a 4x2 which is the worst configuration. The problem with twin screw on winter roads is that you don't get enough friction between the tires and the road as the pressure per square inch gets two low. That's why 6x4 trucks in Scandinavia have the option to deflate the bags for the back axle to get more traction.
    I have never seen a American twin-screw with 3 difflocks other than some logging trucks and oil field trucks.
     
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