want to do it myself.

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  1. joe17752001

    joe17752001 Bobtail Member

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    Is they're a place that anyone knows of to get step by step instructions on in frames and the more technical stuff on deisel engines for the do it your selfer like I am. I like being a driver but I'm also a garage junkie to and like getting my hands dity. I rebuild normal gasoline engines on the side mostly fords (I'm a ford guy). And about 10 years ago I was also working the govement fixing deisel equipment but if something was wrong with the engine we just replaced the whole thing and didn't get to open it up at all. Thanks.
     
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  3. GrapeApe

    GrapeApe Road Train Member

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    Repair manuals are the best. What kind of engine were you planning on in-framing? Each will have some specialty tool needed. I can help you with a Detroit S60 manual to give you an idea if what you're in for. All my Cat and Cummins stuff in online, so I can't copy, but I have a Detroit .pdf for S60. PM me your email if you're interested.
     
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  4. joe17752001

    joe17752001 Bobtail Member

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    Yea man any help your offering would be awsome. Don't have a specific engine yet just wanted to see how different the process was from a gasoline engine. I'm aware that it's a total diffrent concept and all. Glow plugs vs spark plugs. Just what to get a junker and go from there.
     
  5. GrapeApe

    GrapeApe Road Train Member

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    You have an email coming, it's 22 meg, so it'll take a bit.

    There are some major differences and similarities. Most people who have rebuilt a car engine, really assembled a car engine. They had a machine shop do all the machine work and checking, then they put it together. Not many people have the expensive equipment needed to do that kind of work.

    There is a lot less of that in an in-frame. You can send the head out, but the block and crank is all you. You have to verify that it is all in spec and can be overhauled in the truck.
     
  6. joe17752001

    joe17752001 Bobtail Member

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    When I did my last build yes I didn't have the machine shop stuff but I did reassemble every thing back. So I do have most the gauges. I realize each engine has their own special tools that make this easier that will never change. But I don't mind having another tool at all. Lol
     
  7. puncher

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    As grape ape said manuals are really good, but you can pull up a wealth of information on the web. I like to lay everything in order and try to remember how it came off, and label most of it, some things you can mix and match, but most need to go back exactly where they came from. You need a big air compressor (I rented a portable one until I could afford to buy one) and a 3/4",1/2", and even 3/8" impact, of course you can use a ratchet on some parts, and of course a 3/4 and 1/2 torque wrench. I always send the head out to have it checked, make sure to check protrusion before installing liner O-rings, after checking then remove liners and install O-rings and carefully reinstall liners. Actually everything I've said can be found in the manual or online, but you'll do fine as long as you take your time and if you run into something you don't understand just ask. Good luck.
     
  8. GrapeApe

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    Cell phones are a great tool when doing something new, snap several pics as you tear it down so you have something to refer to going back together.

    Some tools can be made, some parts stores rent them too. You need a liner puller & installer. You'll need a good straight edge & feeler gauges to check for deck straightness. A depth mic to check counter bore depth (at several locations per cylinder), a bore gauge or snap gauges & mic to check for liner bore roundness. A sled gauge to check liner protrusion (at least 4 places on each bore). Plastigauge to check crank bearing clearances. A quality 1/2" and 3/4" torque wrench. Some engines will require special gauges to set injector height, some you can use dial calipers to instead of buying the special tool. There's a bunch of other little things you'll need too, but that's most of the big things that you'll need.

    Not generally part of an in-frame, but if you intend to put front & rear main seals in, most engines have special drivers for them that are pricey.
     
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  9. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    piston ring compressor.

    or is there another technique for installing the pistons?
     
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    Leave the hood shut.
     
  11. joe17752001

    joe17752001 Bobtail Member

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    Yeah guys I have all the tools in the garage. I jave air and air tools as well make's things faster. I'm kinda a tool junkie and only get the name brand stuff sinse I'm always working on projects and helping friends family and working on my own stuff.
     
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