double nut hubs and rims

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  1. rank

    rank Road Train Member

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    Truck is a 1986 Peterbilt 359 with 285/75 R24.5 low pro rubber with double nuts. The old timers around here call them "double nut buds". They usually either smile or grimmace when they look at them.

    My problem is, after I place the inner aluminum rim on the hub, there is only approx 1/2" of the wheel stud protruding from the rim, which allows me only 4-5 (fine) threads of engagement when I put the nut on. My mechanic (who is 65 yrs old) theorized this is because the truck probably came with steel rims....Steel rims being thinner, allowing for more threads protruding from the rim. However Peterbilt dealer confirms the truck was manufactured with aluminum rims. So much for that theory.

    OK no problem I need to put longer wheel studs in the hub. $4 per stud right? Wrong. My local truck parts shop and online searches result in a Euclid part that costs $23 per stud x 40 studs!!!!!!

    Has anyone dealt with this?
     
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  3. dirthaller

    dirthaller Heavy Load Member

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    ####.....I gave away 60 of the short ones away a few years back.....didn't know I was sittin on a gold mine!
     
  4. rank

    rank Road Train Member

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    Short ones are cheap....$4 each. It's the long ones that are gold.
     
  5. BeenJammin

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    In almost 30 years, maybe some change outs have occured. Don't recall seeing centrifuse brake drums back in those days. That would be another option if your drums are all cast. You would gain about 1/4 inch or more of threads on the hub lug studs, and save about 25 to 30 lbs per drum. They are around $200 a piece which would be cheaper than $ 920, and a whole lot less labor. Assuming you're talking hub lug studs and not inner thimble lugs.
     
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  6. wichris

    wichris Road Train Member

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    Are the inner nut's for aluminum wheels? There are some longer ones for them.
     
  7. BeenJammin

    BeenJammin Light Load Member

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    Rank, you're talking about lug stud thread length when put the inside rim on, or thimble length when you put on outside wheel? I read it as inside wheel, maybe I'm confused, but that's normal in my situation.
     
  8. rank

    rank Road Train Member

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    You guys are reading it right. Stud length is the issue. The thimble is long enough (i.e. blind threaded hole is deep enough) to take a upwards of 4" of thread but there is only a few threads on the wheel stud sticking out past the aluminum inner rim.
     
  9. rank

    rank Road Train Member

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    Good idea on the brake drums. I will check into that.
     
  10. wichris

    wichris Road Train Member

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    All you need is euclid E5978L & R nuts for changing from steel to aluminum. You might have 5988 or 7898 nuts.
     
  11. rank

    rank Road Train Member

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    Yep. $23/each plus shipping.
     
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