2002 KW T2000 Rear Suspension Question

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  1. 68Goat

    68Goat Light Load Member

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    Hello,
    I have included a couple of pics to go along with the questions. This is an 8 bag KW suspension set up. The bushings on the passenger side of this tractor are worn out. There is some play working it's way into the axles on the right side.
    I have been told that I can not buy bushings for this suspension set up because they don't make this assembly any longer. Is this true? I have also heard that this suspension assembly is a piece of crap and that I need to upgrade it. I don't know the model number of what I have or the model number for a decent upgrade. If anyone could help with suggestions I would appreciate it. Is this called the AG100 system? Surely someone makes these bushings, no? If the bushings aren't made any longer, who has the best suggestion regarding the upgrade as far as value and price? The tractor runs great and makes money so I would like to get it repaired and keep it on the road. Looking for any and all suggestions.
    Thanks,
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  3. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    That sounds like a typical dealer answer to try an gouge you buying what you don't need and paying double or triple what you should have to correct the issue. Any good suspension shop can put new bushings in no big deal. Can recommend a couple of shops Five-oh-Five or TAFA in Nashville, TN this is the kind of work they do.
     
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  4. 68Goat

    68Goat Light Load Member

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    Rollin,
    Thanks for the input. I don't know why they said that. They also quoted me an insane price to do the switch out. I had the rear bushings replaced in a Freightliner a year ago, no problem. Seemed EXTREMELY odd to me. I forgot to mention that the truck is based in the ATL GA area. Know of any shops in the ATL area that do suspension work? I ought to know that but I don't.
    Thanks for the suggestions.
     
  5. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    No, I'm closer to Nashville. I was told the same thing from some crook on commission pay at the parts desk of MHC Nashville - that you must replace the entire components of suspension and new bushings alone aren't available - and so I walked out the door. Kenworth dealers are only interested in taking care of big fleets - for little guys like you and me they try to get us to pay for their kids college. You might pm and ask TTR member Redforeman he is from the Atlanta area and maybe knows suspension shops around there. Several other drivers from GA on here who can maybe recommend one.
     
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  6. Dryver

    Dryver Road Train Member

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    I agree with RC on this one. A good independent shop can fix you up with bushings. I would also look at a salvage operation and see what a newer rear clip would cost. Your truck is 12-13 years old so everything back there is worn, diffs included.
     
  7. Fishell Trucking

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    What you have is a AG 200 suspension. If you can get bushing for it the big problem is keeping it greased and even then the longevity is not that long. This suspension is just a poor design on kenworths part. I have seen it first hand people will rebush all of it and not even make it a year and it is needing done again. I can't remember what one is the easiest to switch the AG100 or the AG200 over to the AG400. If you have the money I would make the switch over to the AG400 and your suspension issues will go away. In my opinion the AG400 is the best KW suspension made.
    Good Luck
     
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  8. Helowrenchturn2

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    Not meaning to hijack your thread but what exactly am I looking for to determine if the bushings need replacing?
     
  9. SmokinCAT

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    The reason the dealer can't get bushings for it is because there is a retrofit for it to upgrade it to an AG400, KW knows it's a bad design.
     
  10. bigguns

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    You are better off to convert to the AG 400 suspension. If I recall correctly the play is in the vertical pin and where it sits. If you hook to a trailer, leave the trailer brakes set, and pull forward to put tension on the susp. then back up and put tension on the susp. While you do this have someone watching between the tires where you took the picture. They will be able to see the play. Or remove the nuts from the end of the wishbone. Loosen the wishbone on the other end at the axle. Move the wishbone out of the way. Then use your hand to wiggle the vertical pin that was bolted to the wishbone. Check the rubber bushings in the clamp on each end of the cross shaft. I think there are bushings where the cross shaft passes through the elephant ear i.e. the component bolted to the frame.
     
  11. BoxCarKidd

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    Do bigguns inspection. Instead of bushings I believe those are steel threaded pins screwed into an aluminum housing. You can not fix them and I could not find any new ones. I bought newsed AG 400 setup from Richard Kerns Truck Parts in Ellenwood Ga. ,delivered motor freight, saved about $1700.00. That was frame brackets, axle to axle & side to side assy. You would have to find someone to do installation and alignment.
     
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