Engine dilemmas...

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  1. DieselDog81

    DieselDog81 Medium Load Member

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    Well, through a series of unfortunate events. I found that my truck (2006 Pete 357 with a MXS) was pushing oil out the exhaust. After looking at a few things, I decide to send it to Cat since the 1 year old warrenty should cover it. Well, not exactly. Cat finds that the camshaft, valve train and basically the entire head is junk. There's a few things wrong with the cylinder packs. But, here's the choices Im looking at.

    1). Do a platinum overhaul kit
    2). Install a Cat reman engine
    3). Buy the bosses 6NZ with roughly 350K on a major overhaul.

    Ive pretty much figured that the overhaul kit is out, mostly due to the cost. The reman would be cheaper to throw in, but only comes with a 2 year warrenty, but with the option for the additional 2 years. And the bosses 6NZ is a good running motor, I drove it from TX to MN and its a puller for sure, it has a few add-ons (turbo, exhaust manifold...) but nothing over the top. But, I feel that hes asking a little too much for it.

    While all this is happening, Im going to replace a lot of stuff since it'll all be easy access, engine mounts, hoses, wires...etc.

    So, what are your thoughts on this dilemma?
     
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  3. Cat sdp

    Cat sdp . .

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    Cat will finance the platinum kit if it's done at a cat house.... It is a lot of $$ tho....

    and why won't the 1 year warrantee cover anything that's wrong now....?
     
  4. tommymonza

    tommymonza Road Train Member

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    I take it the reman is only cheaper because it is nothing more than a rebuilt long block with no new bolt on accessories while the platinum overhaul is a inframe with new accessories like a turbo,air ti air, oil cooler, injectors etc ?
     
  5. DieselDog81

    DieselDog81 Medium Load Member

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    Well, the warranty will cover about 3K of the cost. But thats about it. The guy that had the truck when the rebuild was done, just went with the bare bones cheapest version of the 36 month.
    From what I understood, was the the platinum kit is going to be about 42K out the door, which is also inclusive of fixing the oil leaks from the front cover, power steering and fuel pump gaskets, changing the oil cooler and a few other things.

    But, on the flip side of the coin... the reman would run about 32K out the door. Which would include new or reman'd turbo, injectors...etc
    https://parts.cat.com/en/catcorp/search/reman-engine
    I believe that the major savings is going to be in the cost of labor between the two. Not so much in parts.
     
  6. tommymonza

    tommymonza Road Train Member

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    Sounds like the majority of the problem lies in the cylinder head. What is the problem with the cylinder packs?
     
  7. Fishell Trucking

    Fishell Trucking Light Load Member

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    Wow 42,000 sounds absolutly crazy. I had mine oveverhauled a little over a year ago and it was done for 25 to 26ish. This is what I had done new cam, new oil cooler, 958 injectors, counter bores cut, reman head, and a aftermarket turbo.
     
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    Theres some confusion on whats happening and why. The only cylinder that wasnt pushing oil was #4. #'s 5 and 6 were the worst of them. When the pistons were pulled there it looks as if the heavy haul fire ring was added, but the other two are the standard rings. And its like this on all six packs. Oh, and I forgot that the counterbores that were cut, 3 of them were cut incorrectly. Which should be covered under the "workmanship" clause.

    So, hence, after adding the parts, labor and etc. into the equation, thats when we all started talking about just throwing in a reman.
     
  9. tommymonza

    tommymonza Road Train Member

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    Where did the warranty come from ? How long ago was the engine overhauled and who did it ? A Cat shop?
     
  10. DieselDog81

    DieselDog81 Medium Load Member

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    Yeah, it was done in a cat house in Tulsa. It was done 01/13/14
     
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  11. Cat sdp

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    42k and that's not a typo? .. I'd be up cats butt about things not being done correctly on the last rebuild.....and go from there. If you core the engine their off the hook.


    And everything that wasn't replaced last time should have been inspected ...... To qualify for the warrantee .
     
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