hey fellas!! i have a problem i swaped a 460 non egr to a 2009 egr dpf that truck acelerates good and idle good too but when i shut off the key for one minute and i want to start it over...it doesn't want to start up.(only with ether) i try in idle i take out the return line and there is no fuel ?at the same time i take out the hose as well like taking it out from the tank and the motor is still running for 15 minutes it doesn't shut off. so can anyone help me with this problem or how to run the fuel lines? its a freightliner columbia thanks in advance
mercedes 460 with ether only
Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by pichu, Feb 7, 2012.
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Sounds like the fuel system's losing its' prime or it might be electronic.
Or- the fuel lines aren't routed properly.
http://www.ddcsn.com/cps/rde/xbcr/ddcsn/ch8_mbe4000.pdfpichu Thanks this. -
hey dave!!when you say loose prime /is this putting fuel pression to the lines?oh does the system have air (i left the engine running one hour and it sounds good )when you say it could be electronic, what can the problem be?when i got the motor it had one entrance for fuel and return line ,we did not touch anything or do you know if the new engine had a lift pump?or something like that .thank you and i appreciate your time
Last edited: Feb 8, 2012
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it is air in fuel issue. Mercrdes makes good fuel systems and truck keeps running with some cracks in fuel lines, but wont starting well
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Hi pichu- I would go with Pablo's advice, fuel is leaking out of the system somewhere after it's turned off. Once air gets into the injectors you'll need ether to get it to start. There's a check valve that keeps fuel from draining out when the motor's off, that's a good place to start looking. (I've never actually seen it but it's in there- or should be). A lot of the fuel lines on an MBE are plastic- they get dry or fatigued and crack. When they do, it's hard to find where it's leaking from because the fuel goes all over the place.
The only other thing that comes to mind is ECM voltage. Your ECM has its' own battery connection-if that's corroded or damaged or that battery's no good and the ECM's not getting enough energy the engine won't start. Once the alternator starts providing energy (starting on ether), it's getting the proper voltage.
And.. let's see- primary fuel filter leaks can also cause such a problem..pichu Thanks this. -
thanx dave n pablo!!i fix the problem,the problem was the new engine(460 egr dpf),has a extra wire called (crank something) i find it in bunch of wires was desconecting, thanx for you helpand now just i show the key n star up!!!!
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mercedes really is PLD engine (no pump injectors). Pump units are cam driven (engine is OHV of pushrod design).
EMC is not so voltage sencitive like Volvo ore DDEC-IV and battery power wires are directly connected to starter power supply so if starter cranks engine no low voltage issues (two red wire positive battery power, two brown - gegative battery power, pin 15 on x2 connector - ignition circuit).dave26027 Thanks this. -
You taught us all something, THANKS! -
On a Mercedes make sure the o ring in the fuel filter is installed correctly as well, thought it was the check valve on one I was driving awhile back. Nope moron changing oil missed an o ring. I know yours is already done but so you know kinda thing
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