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    Quote Originally Posted by Agit8 View Post
    Hi all,

    I'm planning on buying a Twin Steer Agitator and was just wondering what is the best type of suspension to have?

    i just realise that agitator is what we call concrete mixer , hm since they are trucks which are very problematic with stability , i would put steel suspension on parabolic springs all round this give you very good stability on terrain

    we load up to 12m3 on them

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    when depression started in Ukraine many US trucks that towed 45" container chassis before were unused so we have to convert them to BDF 20" container haulers. Do drop container fron air suspention is required (manual controlled), so we had to remove one leaf from front pack and add air bag. We had to remove sleeper and fit BDF chassis with container coupling. And what to say! with leveling valves this truck is like a boat in storm! Answer was simple - 12 to 24V Voltage conveter and ECAS from European JYs! ECAS changed truck so rapidly - no shaking, but no sway and rocking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 98989 View Post
    what is point about acco truck? why iveco dont offer you normal eurotrakker truck i dont have trust for american components and off road , i dont consider iveco as something comfortable and nice but it is some kind of joke but it is sturdy truck for work ...i want to say i like big hub reduction axles , i like big springs not air suspension or other things present on US trucks, i was looking at some kenworth trucks with some weird suspension with limited axle walk (dont know how do you call it but) , i am not confident about non syncro transmissions while offroad , syncro offers you much more in tricky situations
    Accos are a Australian only model. They have been around for about 50 years and havn't changed much in that time. Very basic, but they get the job done.
    The Kenworth, Mack and Iveco in this class are all Australian designed and built, You won't find these models overseas.
    You won't find many trucks other than heavy haul in aus that run hub reduction. Because the 18 speed road ranger is the gearbox of choice for most big trucks with a wide spread of ratios they just arn't needed unless you are pulling triple road trains with 90 ton plus. In the agitator game for manuals we run either the 8LL or the newer 9LL road rangers, or Allison autos. Synchro gearboxes arn't very popular over here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Down under trucker View Post
    Accos are a Australian only model. They have been around for about 50 years and havn't changed much in that time. Very basic, but they get the job done.
    The Kenworth, Mack and Iveco in this class are all Australian designed and built, You won't find these models overseas.
    You won't find many trucks other than heavy haul in aus that run hub reduction. Because the 18 speed road ranger is the gearbox of choice for most big trucks with a wide spread of ratios they just arn't needed unless you are pulling triple road trains with 90 ton plus. In the agitator game for manuals we run either the 8LL or the newer 9LL road rangers, or Allison autos. Synchro gearboxes arn't very popular over here.

    is that acco iveco model or iveco takeover some other company?

    here all construction trucks have hub reduction axles , and we prefer largest available (they usually come in more versions)

    we broke even them since here terrain is soft so truck can often sink , also we load them well , 50t on 4axle is about standard some go even to 70t on 4axles

    only trucks in construction which dont have hub reduction are 2axle tractors with 3axle semitrailers , many operator prefers hub reduction but almost all those trucks are second hand long haulage tractors but they mostly drive only on road and weights up to 60t

    also one concrete company 3km from my home have half of their MAN mixers are payload optimised with hypoid axles , disc brakes , parabolic suspension with 2 leafs , but many look at them as suspiciously


    we love here big stuff , here construction 4axle trucks have: 14-16 speed transmission , strongest front axle and suspension , strongest rear axles and suspension and twin chassis rail if manufacturer provide it ....and even than there are problems with cracking subframe

    as for me this is only kind of suspension/axle choice


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    Quote Originally Posted by 98989 View Post
    also one concrete company 3km from my home have half of their MAN mixers are payload optimised with hypoid axles , disc brakes , parabolic suspension with 2 leafs , but many look at them as suspiciously


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