Truckers' Trucking Forum | Message Board | Discussion - The Premier Truck Drivers Forum!  

Trucker MySpace - Truckers Making Friends. Chicken Truckers Come Meet Other Truckers!

Good Trucking Jobs - Forget Those CRAP Trucking Jobs & Find A Good Trucking Job!




Go Back   Truckers' Trucking Forum | Message Board | Discussion > The Garage > Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]

Truckers' Trucking Forum/Message Board - The Premiere Truck Driver Forum
Sponsored Links

Important Truckers Forum Notice!

Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ] Roll On Big Mama. Forum/Discussion about Eighteen Wheeler Trucks. What truck do you like or dislike? Is your favorite truck a Mack, Peterbilt, Kenworth, Marmon, Volvo or Freightliner? Which diesel engine do you prefer; Detroit Diesel, Cummins, or...

Poll: Drivers do you
Poll Options
Drivers do you

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  ^ Top   #11  
Old 03.13.2007
jorlee's Avatar
Bobtail Member
 
Last Seen: 2 Days Ago 06.29 PM
Member Since: Feb 2007
Location: ND
Age: 24
Posts: 16
My Trucking Photos: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked: 0 Times
Quote:
Originally Posted by NyteWulf View Post
So floating wouldn't mess up the clutch and transmission?
Nope won't hurt it, clutch just stays engaged, and in the tranny all that's happping is one sliding gear is coming out of mesh and another going in. Clutch linkage, and the clutch probably gets more wear when using it every shift than, just floating.

Nothing can be hurt unless you grind them too much, which is bad whether or not the clutch is used. Just don't rest your foot on the clutch, or slam the clutch to the floor when double clutching.
__________________
Jordan
Reply With Quote
Remove This Ad By Registering. Join Our Truck Forum and Trucking Community For Free. Sponsored Links:

  ^ Top   #12  
Old 03.13.2007
Jack Of All Trades
 
Last Seen: 5 Hours Ago 10.11 PM
Member Since: Sep 2006
Location: Northeast Iowa
Trucker? 3 Years
Posts: 1,459
My Trucking Photos: 0

Thanks: 62
Thanked: 84 Times
From what I've read, heard, etc about auto-shifts, they are automated float shifting , done by electric or pneumatic actuators, and controlled by computer.

Full auto- with a torque converter is the only thing that is related to an automotive transmission.

AJ
Reply With Quote
  ^ Top   #13  
Old 03.13.2007
NyteWulf's Avatar
Bobtail Member
 
Last Seen: 07.06.2007 05.50 AM
Member Since: Feb 2007
Location: Blacksburg, Va.
Posts: 45
My Trucking Photos: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked: 0 Times
So all you do is shift, no cluth involved at all. Or is there a trick to it? Do schools teach this?
Reply With Quote
  ^ Top   #14  
Old 03.13.2007
jorlee's Avatar
Bobtail Member
 
Last Seen: 2 Days Ago 06.29 PM
Member Since: Feb 2007
Location: ND
Age: 24
Posts: 16
My Trucking Photos: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked: 0 Times
DMV require double clutching for driving Test. Floating is the same principle of double clutching, without the clutch. Which would be useful if your linkage were to break, you would be able to contine normally to a truck shop for repair.

Upshifting-- Release pressure on transmission by easing off the fuel pedal, while pulling to neutral, then putting into next gear when rpm falls to the right rpm, repeat

Downshifting-- release pressure on transmission by giving a little rpm, move stick to neutral, raise rpm, put stick into lower gear repeat

It's the same principal as double clutching.

upshift clutch pull stick to neutral clutch stick into gear

downshift clutch neutral raise rpm clutch gear

Just skipping the entire clutch movement, which breaks torque on the transmission, making it easier to shift. With floating the torque break is down with the go pedal, which is how a Auto shift shifts. I'd assume the ultra shift does it the same way.
__________________
Jordan
Reply With Quote
  ^ Top   #15  
Old 03.14.2007
MIA (Banned or Retired)
 
Last Seen: 04.09.2008 02.54 PM
Member Since: Mar 2007
Location: Turku, Finland
Trucker? 23 Years
Age: 41
Posts: 367
My Trucking Photos: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked: 0 Times
float up double clutch down even in offroad conditons So was I thought to drive a truck in the army as it´s the fastest way to avoid getting cought under fire.
Nowadays I have a 18speed Fuller to work with.
Reply With Quote
  ^ Top   #16  
Old 03.14.2007
Brickman's Avatar
Trucker Forum STAFF
 
Member Since: Sep 2006
Location: southeast WY
Trucker? 5 Years
Age: 34
Posts: 9,217
My Trucking Photos: 7

Thanks: 1,695
Thanked: 860 Times
Double clutch for driving test might depend on the state. 6 or 7 yrs ago already WY did not require double clutch.
__________________
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Politicians and diapers need to be changed often and for the same reason.

Its useless to argue with ignorance

Don't blame me, I didn't vote for the anti American crew.



Reply With Quote
Remove This Ad By Registering. Join Our Truck Forum and Trucking Community For Free. Sponsored Links:

  ^ Top   #17  
Old 03.14.2007
Road Train Member
 
Last Seen: 09.15.2008 07.59 PM
Member Since: Apr 2005
Location: Southwestern Michigan (Lawrence)
Posts: 2,182
My Trucking Photos: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked: 13 Times
Mich did not require double clutching when i took the test, and frankly, once the tester saw I knew my way around a transmission, from that point onwards he had no further interest in my specific technique.
Reply With Quote
  ^ Top   #18  
Old 03.14.2007
Bobtail Member
 
Last Seen: 4 Weeks Ago 03.28 AM
Member Since: Mar 2007
Posts: 30
My Trucking Photos: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Eaton Fuller (RoadRanger transmissions) has an interesting video (for newbies, anyway) that somebody on this site once posted a link to. According to Eaton Fuller the advantage to double clutching is that using the clutch 'breaks the torque' on the transmission and reduces the stress on the gears when the transmission is brought into neutral when the gears are floated, and this is when damage is most likely to occur.

I would think if one is proficient at floating and can do it consistently without clacking or grinding the gears that it wouldn't hurt the tranny but that's a big if.
Reply With Quote
  ^ Top   #19  
Old 03.16.2007
MIA (Banned or Retired)
 
Last Seen: 04.09.2008 02.54 PM
Member Since: Mar 2007
Location: Turku, Finland
Trucker? 23 Years
Age: 41
Posts: 367
My Trucking Photos: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked: 0 Times
Actually it takes the Stress of the Forks that moves the gears while you use the clutch...
I sometimes dip the clutch a little just when I feel the stick doesn´t come out softly.
Reply With Quote
  ^ Top   #20  
Old 03.16.2007
Brickman's Avatar
Trucker Forum STAFF
 
Member Since: Sep 2006
Location: southeast WY
Trucker? 5 Years
Age: 34
Posts: 9,217
My Trucking Photos: 7

Thanks: 1,695
Thanked: 860 Times
Quote:
Originally Posted by slim66 View Post
Eaton Fuller (RoadRanger transmissions) has an interesting video (for newbies, anyway) that somebody on this site once posted a link to. According to Eaton Fuller the advantage to double clutching is that using the clutch 'breaks the torque' on the transmission and reduces the stress on the gears when the transmission is brought into neutral when the gears are floated, and this is when damage is most likely to occur.

I would think if one is proficient at floating and can do it consistently without clacking or grinding the gears that it wouldn't hurt the tranny but that's a big if.


That torque release also comes from lifting your foot from the throttle before sliding the trans out of gear.
__________________
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Politicians and diapers need to be changed often and for the same reason.

Its useless to argue with ignorance

Don't blame me, I didn't vote for the anti American crew.



Reply With Quote
Reply

Truckers Forum Bookmarks - Like This Thread? Tell The World!

Truckers' Trucking Forum/Message Board
Truckers Accessories


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Trucker Forum Replies Last Post
DOWN Shifting mascmo Experienced Truckers' Advice 18 08.19.2008 02.43 PM
Shifting RPM mtrhd Experienced Truckers' Advice 3 02.28.2008 08.07 PM
Shifting a 15 speed? risingfighter Questions From New Drivers 14 10.28.2007 09.58 PM
13 spd shifting MGASSEL Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ] 7 07.07.2007 07.24 AM
Shifting speed_man13 Questions From New Drivers 5 03.20.2007 04.43 PM


.


vBulletin Forum Software, Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.
Copyright © The Truckers Report - Trucking Forum & Message Board - Truck Driver Discussion - Truck Forum

Trucker Forum Disclaimer: All content, information and opinions (collectively, the "Material") presented on Our Trucker Forum Discussion Board at TheTruckersReport.com are those of the authors of posts and messages (collectively, the "participants") and not The Truckers Report. The Truckers Report does not guarantee the reliability, completeness, accuracy, timeliness or up-to-date-ness of the material presented on the Truck Driver Forum. The material is published "as is," and does not represent the official views and opinions of The Truckers Report or any company. Any reliance upon the Material presented on these forums shall be at User's own risk. The Truckers Report does not review the substance of the content posted by users on these forums and is therefore not responsible for any of such content. The Truckers Forum merely provides a space for its users to express and exchange their own opinions.


Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO