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DPF Filter added on to a non dpf truck!

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by SpankingGT, Jul 17, 2014.

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  1. Jul 17, 2014 #1
    SpankingGT

    SpankingGT Light Load Member

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    After doing my due diligence, I figured the safest route to run CA is to buy and put on the filter. I got quoted at 18.6k, yes you read that right. Almost 19,000 USD for a freaking filter. Either that or spend 85-90k for a def truck. I only know one other person who put a filter on a kenworth T200 with a c-15 motor. I've seen this truck run without any problems.

    Has anyone else done this? How does detroit motor run with a filter (series 60- 14liter )?

    Please do share any experience you guys have!

    Thanks!
     
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  3. Jul 17, 2014 #2
    Cat sdp

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    That 19k is probably more than the book value of the truck.

    I've got a truck that was half axx engineered for a dpf.... And it's a pos.

    Putting one on a truck that was not designed for it .....no Tks ....


    Save your money for a def truck......
     
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  4. Jul 17, 2014 #3
    Winkjr

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    Kevin Rutherford had a dude on his show last night that had one out on and had no problems. It is not linked into the ECM. That's what I think he said.
     
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  5. Jul 17, 2014 #4
    Studebaker Hawk

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    Put in on and keep us posted. You look like an intelligent soul who can make it work. Me, I don't need the operational headaches that California present. Not for any amount of money.
    I assume you are going to charge an extra $.75 per mile to purchase and maintenance of said device.
     
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  7. Jul 17, 2014 #5
    SpankingGT

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    Sarcasm dully noted! I want to charge an extra 10.00/mile but we can all dream. So in other words, 28k invested should turn an additional .75/mile - so if I buy a 90k truck, I should charge another 2.25/mile additional on my current rate. You should teach Harvard business school!
     
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  8. Jul 17, 2014 #6
    SpankingGT

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    I understand your point. As far I understand, ECM is reprogrammed to act as a truck equipped with DPF from factory. So DPF equippment and DPF tuning will do? Or am I completely lost on this?
     
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  9. Jul 18, 2014 #7
    Semi Crazy

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    Remember KKKalipornya keeps changing the rules. As soon as you plunk down 5 digits on a DPF they might outlaw them on older engines. Those CARB twerks just make up rules to justify their cushy jobs.
     
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  10. Jul 18, 2014 #8
    Joetro

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    There is no way I could ever justify spending that kind of money to modify my truck to run worse just to satisfy the idiots in Kalifornia.
     
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  11. Jul 18, 2014 #9
    Cat sdp

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    Do you have a website for whoever is installing these 19k dpfs .......?
     
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  12. Jul 18, 2014 #10
    Studebaker Hawk

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    No Harvard business school grad here. Just 38 years turning a profit as an owner operator in an increasingly regulated and competitive industry. Also did my due diligence regarding this option and among other things, the provider of the aftermarket dpf filter has to be carb approved, and of the several companies providing such a device most have stopped manufacturing and supporting them.
    Think about the relatively small market for a complex device in an ever shrinking market.
    1. The number of trucks needing it can only go down.
    2. No major engine manufacturer offers or recommends the use of this aftermarket item attached to an engine with no provision for it
    3. The ecm on a pre 2007 engine has no parameters for a device to adjust.

    According to industry sources in trade journals like Transport Topics and Heavy Duty Trucking report a mixed success rate, with as many failures as successes. And the .75 per mile quote includes both multiple replacements and significant downtime for unscheduled maintenance.
    You in clearly in the minority in this conclusion. The marketplace has gone in a different direction.
     
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