Ford F-150 with a CAT diesel! - Page 4 - Truckers' Trucking Forum

shiftty · **^ Top** #31 08.13.2007

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Originally Posted by Shockwave

And not because they don't make good engines, just because of these stupid enviro's. There is no conclusive proof that we are contributing to global warming, and that it's not an earths natural cycle. All they can provide is a scientist's educated guess, based on theories that haven't been proven fact! If this is true their going to put the best diesel motor, and heavy equipment manufacturer out of business!! We have to stop these nuts!

Im not going to get into a global warming discussion, theres too much there to discuss.. Even if global warming is a "natural cycle", there's no doubt that we could use cleaner air in many parts of the world.

When you think about the open road, no doubt the restrictions don't make as much sense. However, if I lived in somewhere like Atlanta or Detroit or LA, I would be hoping for some better air, too...

The EPA regs dont apply the same way to construction equipment and CAT will NEVER stop making dozers, graders, etc. The 07 engines for On-highway will begin entering construction equipment in 2010 and in stationary units (gensets and industrial engines) in approx 2012.

In the long run, this is a good thing, because it will force manufacturers to start making equipment more efficient, not just in emissions, but fuel economy (which the new engines need some work on, I know)

MACK E-6 · **^ Top** #32 08.14.2007

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Originally Posted by Shockwave

Why not International is, it is the size of a Chevy Top Kick but with a pick-up bed!

I saw a Freightliner FL60 with a pickup bed once.

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Originally Posted by Burky

I'm not buying that any F-150 has enough front suspension underneath it to support the weight of any diesel engine, Cat or otherwise......

I dunno. It may be able to handle a 3126. They aren't that big.

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Originally Posted by Tip

Peterbilt should start building pickups. They'd be big, of course, but they'd sell, no doubt. I'd get one of these, assuming the drive trains could take it. I wouldn't want to be like those retired guys you see broken down on the side of the highway in their big, studly RVs. These are the rigs with the he-man engines but she-male trannies and diffies.

I'd like to see that myself. Mack should get in on the act as well. They wouldn't do bad at all.

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Originally Posted by Tip

No matter what brand it is, if it has a CAT engine, one should make sure the driveline can handle it.

A $300,000 rolling hotel room doesn't necessarily come with a tranny, rear-end, or U-joints that can handle a big CAT engine.

I knew a guy once that somehow managed to shoehorn a 671 Detroit into an F350 dump truck. He had some small driveline problems with that thing after that. Gee, I wonder why.

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Originally Posted by Shockwave

If this is true their going to put the best diesel motor, and heavy equipment manufacturer out of business!! We have to stop these nuts!

Not likely. Caterpillar does very well. I read once that the Israeli military bought some D-10's and D-11's, outfitted them with armor, and used them to storm the facilities of their enemies. A piece of machinery equipped in such a fashion makes a formidable weapon. If the Israelis thought of that, chances are other nations did too.

Jarlaxle · **^ Top** #33 08.16.2007

I drive an F-650 with a 3126 (C7) Cat. AN F-150 could barely haul it as cargo...wouldn't come close to fitting under the hood.

radiorambo · **^ Top** #34 08.23.2007

Thats typical ford claiming they have Cat engines. Even if it was true which I doubt. Ford changes their vehicles more then hillary clinton changes her tune..

dieselralph · **^ Top** #35 08.24.2007

Cummins 6.7 (5.9 last year) is the base engine in the Ford 650/750. Ford kicked the Powerchoke out of the chassis. Only Cat and Cummins options now. Funny the ISB 6.7 is the same engine in the Dodge. Powerchoke is too weak for the bigger truck and the C7 is too large for the lighter duty. Also Cat got kicked out of pete and kw medium duty trucks completely. Can't get a Cat in a new 335 even if you wanted its all Pete engines made by cummins.

dieselralph · **^ Top** #36 08.24.2007

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Originally Posted by Shockwave

I was arguing with some import lovers on a Ford forum. And I'm going to link this thread to their forum. Can you guys tell them what CAT's reputation is? They where telling me that there is not a demand for CAT's outside of constuction equipment, and that CAT was being forced out of the semi market! I want a Caterpillar diesel in my F-150! The Internationals that they use now are junk! Here are my renditions of a F-150 powered by CAT! [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link.

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Also I wouldn't count Cat out of the truck market. They are too big. They just screwed up for the past couple years. Give detroit and cummins a chance too screw up and cat will be back in there.

Finally, Dodge will have a diesel in its half ton in 2010 made by Cummins and Gm by Isuza right?

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