97 chevy service truck bent pushrod

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  1. Ezrider_48501

    Ezrider_48501 Road Train Member

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    not really big truck or even diesel (Chevy 350 vortec) but i know a lot of you are very knowledgeable in more than just one aspect of turning wrenches.

    i recently bought a service truck, got it cheap. runs rough seller claimed blown head gasket, said they had it looked at no compression on #6. i asked if one of the adjacent cyl's had no compression as well (ie head gasket blown threw the fire ring between two adjacent cyl's) they said they didn't believe so but didn't know if they might have just stopped with the compression test on #6 anyway the price was cheap enough i figured even with putting a new motor in it was still a good deal. trans shifts good 4wd works a/c even blows cold ect.

    get it back to my shop and do my own compression test and find 0 compression on #6 all adjacent cyl's between 155-160 so i pull the valve cover and find a bent push rod on the #6 exhaust valve. the exhaust valve also seems to be stuck part way open (most likely bent)

    so my question is what is the likely hood of piston damage? any opinions on course of repair ie rebuild the existing motor, used replacement, rebuilt crate engine. pull the head inspect the piston replace the valve and put it back together?

    i don't intend to put many annual miles on this vehicle if that makes any difference

    also the engine runs surprisingly well for only running on 7 of 8 cyl's other than a rough idle and low power.

    any idea what might have caused this? iv rebiult a motor or two due to low compression burning oil ect, never had one do this before, other than one where a timing belt snapped and shoved a bunch of valves into pistons and punched holes in the pistons and caused all kinds of carnage, obviously not what happened here.
     
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  3. Ezrider_48501

    Ezrider_48501 Road Train Member

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    a few pictures of the truck
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  4. Pull you push rods lay them on a flat table, roll them. See how much arch each has. Measure the rod, find a replacement. Manually rotate block to top dead center. You can take a look down the spark plug hole. To see the piston.

    Other ideas is pull the cam shaft & two lifters from bent rods. Inspecting this will give you an idea of what your up against..


    Your on the right track doing a compression test. Cam shaft, lifters and piston head. Are other items to check. Good luck
     
  5. Ezrider_48501

    Ezrider_48501 Road Train Member

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    i pulled the valve cover and found a bent push rod #6 exaust, and either a stuck/bent exhaust valve on #6, at witch point i removed the bent pushrod put the valve covers back on spark plugs back in and pulled it outside till i get a bit more time to mess with it.

    iv never seen just one valve/pushrod bent, only times iv personally come across it was normally caused by a catastrophic failure in the valve train and wide spread carnage this seems to just be the #6 exhaust valve. all other cyl's have 155-160 psi and everything looks good truck has 200k on it
     
  6. Pool6710

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    Drop the oil pan and check the rod. Make sure it didn't spin a bearing
     
  7. I'm thinking spend a couple hundred get a rebuild kit. And tear it down, it will give it new life and won't surprise you next week.

    Then you will know what's alive and what's broken. Just been thinking, all that is being effected. Cam, piston, rods bearings, lifters, pushrods and that exhaust valve.
     
  8. baha

    baha Road Train Member

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    Might as well pull that head and get it fixed or changed out for rebuilt one, if pist. has hole in it you would know by now?
     
  9. GrapeApe

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    Do you have a bore scope? Go though the plug hole and see what's up. It could have been overheated, I have seen 1 that was over heated and the exhaust seat fell out, which caused the piston to hit the valve. That one cracked the piston and ruined the head. That may be why the previous owner though it was a head gasket, he knew it was overheated. Once the valve wont close, the pushrod can fall out of the rocker and get stuck on something and bend.

    I also seen a vortec break a piston right through the top ring groove. No compression, but ran without noise. The top of the piston stayed at the top, but the skirt was still attached to the wrist pin, so it was going up an down quietly.

    You have no choice at this point but to pull the head. So that's my advice, pull the head and inspect the pistons. You may get lucky, you may not. Chances are good that the piston has some damage though.
     
  10. OLDSKOOLERnWV

    OLDSKOOLERnWV Captain Redbeard

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    Of course it still sounds good on 7 cylinders....

    Why do you think most 40+ year old fords have Antique plates on one end and a "Bowtie" on the other? Everybody likes to get home.
    Just Kidding....


    Take the time to pull the head, "intake first of course". Possibly just overwound on RPM's or rocker adjusted to tight that caused the initial problem. If you can get to the crank pulleys fairly easy turn it till it gets stiff then rotatae in the opposite position till it gets stiff, don't strong arm the crap out of it, your just checking for slop in the timing chain, turn the crank not the camshaft, it can be done. If it appears to have excess slop then you might as well look at going a little deeper before you button it up and then get out and find you have another problem you could have fixed while you were there. Take note of the cylinder walls too. Sad GM quit using the 5.7, they were around for a long time. Best of Luck.
     
  11. Ezrider_48501

    Ezrider_48501 Road Train Member

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    i did some calling around today and i might have found a good used engine. they say its still in the truck i can come hear it run in a 99 suburban before they pull it. $350 bucks and they will pull it for me. that just might be the way to go. swap it out and then throw the motor from the service truck on the engine stand and rebuild it. never hurts to have a fresh Chevy 350 laying around.

    id rather not have a whole truck sitting in my way for long if i swap the motor it will take less time from tear down to back running again, then i can rebuild the motor at my leisure and if the used motor goes i can throw the rebuilt back in.
     
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