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| Correct me if I'm wrong but with this new Ecm that I bought from PP that has a 6NZ program. It shouldn't regonize that I have a smart wastegate. I know that it dosen't derate with the higher psi on the boost. Last edited by sleepless nights; 07.28.2008 at 05.50 PM. |
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| The filter housing valve needs to un hooked with a 6NZ ecm and un plugged form the harness, it is fighting the 6NZ ecm and cutting back boost, even though the 6NZ ecm doesent recognize it its still working its magic. Reason why it runs so hot exhaust temps is because PP puts some hotter FLS codes in it, by any chance do you know what trim codes they put in it? 6NZ injectors wont bump fuel millage, they are essentially the same. You need more air in the motor now, I bet the center divider in the turbine housing is cracked on the turbo as well. I would buy a non wastegated turbo like a MI turbo stage 3 or PP turbo. The MBN has a very weak cam the lift on the intake and exhaust valve is alot smaller than a 6NZ, thats hwy the MBN doesent like to pull hard up top. If i were you guys i would go for the 800hp 3406E cam. A stock 550hp C15 with a plugged wastegate wont blow the turbo, a C16 will. It pushes alot more fuel and exhaust energy to spool the turbo too fast with the blocked wategate putting alot of stress on the shaft. The stock turbos will not hold very long after 35psi, the compressor wheel looses efficiency after that and even though you are boosting more all you are doing is creating more hot air than power do to the turbo being way out of its own efficiency range. What i would do to a MBN with a 6NZ ecm is, a 2WS or 1LW cam swap 50hp bump in power, 3406B exhaust manifold, non wastegated turbo. This is a very happy engine combo and will run cool on the exhaust and put a smile on your face and money back in your pocket.
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And I hear you about the turbo putting out lots of boost but not giving that much more power. It dosen't seem to do any better at 40 psi than at 32psi . Fls 18, fts 11, trims I think were 6999 I have recently purchased a used 6nz that has a loose linner or something wrong inside of it won't know untill I get it apart. It had a new exhaust manifold so that is what I just put on the MBN. It was a complete engine so I was going to change the injectors if they would work, don't know what kind of condition they are in. But after reading your post maybe al I have to do is change that cam. That why I bought the engine I knew if I changed enough parts I would get some of that 15% less fuel consumption that a 6NZ was getting over a MBN. I have been looking for a 3406B manifold that is in good shape but supplies are limited around here but I'm sure I will find one soon. I wish I had the option for a different turbo when I had it all apart last week but all there is around here is stock turbo's I was lucky to even get a 6nz turbo most all the dealership stocks now are the one for the twin accerts. Bye the way thank you for all the information. Last edited by sleepless nights; 07.28.2008 at 07.28 PM. |
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| Try putting in 5232 trim codes, the FLS and FTS is of somewhat stock 550hp motor. Yes the filter base MAY be screwing with the ecm actually, i would unplug it form the harness, like i have on mine for a while now. Get rid of the steel lines, put a barbed nipple fitting in the head and run a hose to the wastegate on turbo. I wouldnt run the hose disconected as the MBN turbos housings are so tiny it may granade. The 6NZ turbos dont differ much from the MBN, also the 6NZ manifold is exactly the same, the ports and design is the same, so you wont gain much there. The main reason why the MBN was rated at 525hp max was the cam, its got less lift and that makes it a good low end motor, but past 1600rpm it seems to run out of breath. Dont buy turbos from the dealer if you decide to upgrade, either Pittbrgh or Michigan turbo.
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| We are a very turbo unfriendly country it broke that hard it blew metal back into both air cleaners right through the aftercooler what a mess.To give you a idea,Today I have done about 400miles in 9 hours,top gear about 20%,I have the brakesaver screwed up to 65psi with the jakes(850hp of retardation)still had to get into the bottom of high range with 4:33 rears.Then up the next hill ALL DAY.The turbo gets a good work out!! |
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![]() This is what im running, its the MI TURBO stage 5 high flow, they claim it will hold 80-100psi of boost. It works great so far pushing over 50psi. Its a Borg Warner, with bored housings to accept bigger wheels, the turbine housing is huge. This turbo is very responsive for such a big beast. Once the gauge gets past 12psi it will peg FAST. Even lugging it at 1300rpm it will build over 50psi. Only drawback is it pushes so much air that it has some surge to it if you let off the throttle quick at low boost. It will surge at 50psi if you need to back out of it quick do to some idiot cutting you off, but it sounds cool lol, like a sled puller backing out of it...... I know I know its bad blah.... I dont do it on purpouse.
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| Thats one big turbo,How do you get away with only single clamp on the intercooler pipes?My will surge as well whats that doing to the engine? Is there much difference between the B and C manifolds? |
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