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Old 08.04.2008
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Most engines develope most of their power at 1650+ RPM. CATs love high RPM and hold very high torque at this level. Also causes high head pressure ( Cats usally run in the 55 to 65 range in oil pressures. )
This holds same with Detroits (50-60 PSI).



Examples: CATs love 18 speeds so while climbing a hill with a heavy load can keep their RPMs up therefore loosing little speed but at a cost of more fuel.




October of '07, I sold a '96 W900, 475 3406E w 13 speed;
1.3 million miles, and that truck very, very , very, VERY rarely saw rpm above 1500. It pulled strongly from 1150 til ..... I don't even remember the top rpm. I was hauling grain with a 100,000 # agriculture permit, and to a dumb cajun, that meant 100,000 "in the box". With those loads, most times I shifted UP at around 1250 or 1300 in the lower gears, and NO PROBLEM building speed!
By the way, did I mention that it rarely ran above 1500 RPM?

My next truck was a '01 W900 flattop C15 500 10 speed, which I drove the same way, only leased to a carrier, so I was legal weight ways.
In March I traded the '01 on a '04 W900 with the dreaded bridge engine. Power band on it is quite narrow, 1200 to about 1550 max. above or below those numbers, it's gutless, and I do mean GUTLESS!

Most fellows in my area that have Cats have the same type of performance as the first two trucks I mentioned, maybe they are configured different in your neck of the woods?

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Droy that sounds exactly like my 96 3406E and 00 C-15.
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while i dont know much about deisel's, i have been driving (on 3rd trk now) international 9400's for 1.5 yrs now. i seem to get best pulling/acceleration on hills between 1300-1700
couldn't the difference in tranny gear ratios affect how some percieve the "pulling power"/torque? or are they all geared the same in the tranny?
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I worked on a few of the newer engines , service the fuel system ,check your injector activation pressures, and do a cut test to see if they past. Start from there, hope this helps.
I got the shop guy to change the fuel filter, it didn't fix it, had it taken to a dealer, they changed the fuel filter, guess what, didn't fix it. It starts and runs fine until the fuel in the tanks gets hot, no explanation other than a leak on the vacuum side of the fuel line,after the prime pump but before the charge pump, foam in the fuel would cause the problems as described. The prime pump had a leak but that leak was even when it was cold, the last thing was they changed that($1200 part), swapped the #6 injector, which was misfiring, with the #5 which wasn't, and the 1 in #6 was missing, even though it had worked in #5. Supposedly they changed the o-rings. #6 had been replaced five months before.

Truck has 870k, runs really strong for a low end ISX until the fuel warms, then it couldn't get out of its' own way. Shudders and shakes the whole drive line, it is undriveable. They could use it for a yard mule, but it is unhandy because the dump valve is automatic, can't be done manually and can't be stopped from dumping either

The Cummins guys I know do not like the ISX, it's not a N-14.
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Dump valves can be converted to manual.
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Just wanted to let everyone know who has the IXS Cummins series engines some tips. Most people who have alot of experence know these things but there might be some people here they might find this very helpful.

Most engines develope most of their power at 1650+ RPM. CATs love high RPM and hold very high torque at this level. Also causes high head pressure ( Cats usally run in the 55 to 65 range in oil pressures. )
This holds same with Detroits (50-60 PSI).

The ISX cummins are build a bit different they run very very low head pressure (30-35 PSI) and develope the most power at 1250 RPM.
The advantage to this is better fuel mileage while in a hard pull in high gears.

Examples: CATs love 18 speeds so while climbing a hill with a heavy load can keep their RPMs up therefore loosing little speed but at a cost of more fuel.

Cummins will bog down to 1400 to 1200 RPMs in a 10 speed and hold the same power and torque while also saving fuel.


Hope this helps some people out who have the ISX cummins engines.
Whats the CAT you drove? 3406B? sounds right.
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