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Just got done some training on 2010 Cummins and I tell ya, they don't look all that bad. I think these engines will definitely be better than these 07 emission engines. The whole SCR and urea thing may be a hassle, but I believe after a while drivers should get used to it. As far as my understanding is that we're toning back the EGR operation as we're obviously using the urea to take care of the NOx now instead of EGR. Despite what Volvo tells anyone, there will still be regen. If you have ever read the fine print, it tells you this but does lead one to believe that regen is no more. There still will be the particulate filter and the aftertreatment dosing injector, but again with new improvements to reducing EGR, complete combustion will be improved therefore reducing hydrocarbons and particulate matter....therefore reducing the need for frequent regens.

Anyway....its looking good.
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Just got done some training on 2010 Cummins and I tell ya, they don't look all that bad. I think these engines will definitely be better than these 07 emission engines. The whole SCR and urea thing may be a hassle, but I believe after a while drivers should get used to it. As far as my understanding is that we're toning back the EGR operation as we're obviously using the urea to take care of the NOx now instead of EGR. Despite what Volvo tells anyone, there will still be regen. If you have ever read the fine print, it tells you this but does lead one to believe that regen is no more. There still will be the particulate filter and the aftertreatment dosing injector, but again with new improvements to reducing EGR, complete combustion will be improved therefore reducing hydrocarbons and particulate matter....therefore reducing the need for frequent regens.

Anyway....its looking good.
One thing though......The exhaust smell is about gone....
I would recommend that every driver go out purchase a CO monitor and mount it in the sleeper.....

Exhaust leaks can and will occur.......
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Glad to hear. We haven't had much training lately due to the recession, but I like what I hear about the next generation. Looking at what the MaxxForce had to do, and technically they aren't 2010 compliant, I think technology wise we are at the limit of what we can control with the engine emissions at the engine. I think the future of emissions will all be after-treatment of the exhaust in someway. Don't be surprised if within ten years engines go back to non-egr, but modernized, with all the emissions taken care of past the engine in the exhaust only. I would love to see all this egr be a thing of the past!
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Just got done some training on 2010 Cummins and I tell ya, they don't look all that bad. I think these engines will definitely be better than these 07 emission engines. The whole SCR and urea thing may be a hassle, but I believe after a while drivers should get used to it. As far as my understanding is that we're toning back the EGR operation as we're obviously using the urea to take care of the NOx now instead of EGR. Despite what Volvo tells anyone, there will still be regen. If you have ever read the fine print, it tells you this but does lead one to believe that regen is no more. There still will be the particulate filter and the aftertreatment dosing injector, but again with new improvements to reducing EGR, complete combustion will be improved therefore reducing hydrocarbons and particulate matter....therefore reducing the need for frequent regens.

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I would like to ask you which engines did you get trained on? The little ones or the big one? Could you tell me more of what you like and dislike about the engines?

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Is their any driver at Watkins Shepard who got to drive their VN670 equipped with a 2010 D13 with the DPF system?

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Is their any driver at Watkins Shepard who got to drive their VN670 equipped with a 2010 D13 with the DPF system?

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I don't think they know what engines under the hood really some just drive the truck.
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I'm still wondering how they are gonna keep that urea liquid from freezing whn it is 40 below zero. And I have also read that it degrades at temps above 85, so in the California desert, does it have to be chilled when it is 125 out?
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The lines should be heated for the winter and there should be a heater in the tank as to keep the DEF from freezing. I don't really know about the desert heat. I do know that is does still work in the desert so nothing to worry about there.
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Do you mean DD13????
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Urea degrades above 30 degrees C however the rate at which that occurs is slower than it is consumed... so you would only have to worry about some tank sitting out in the sun in the desert.

An SCR truck smells a bit like windex sprayed on a windshield on a really hot day when it drives by.
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