Warner good or bad?

Discussion in 'Werner' started by thorpekirk91, Feb 7, 2014.

  1. waldee

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    ***PLEASE READ**AGAIN EVERYONES EXPERIENCE IS DIFFERENT SO ON THAT NOTE. THIS WAS MINE! I WENT TO ORIENTATION TODAY IN FLA & THE GUY IN THE FRONT OFFICE IS VERY UNPROFESSIONAL! I WAS READING OVER MY PAPERWORK TO UNDERSTAND IT THEN THE GUYS SAYS JUST HURRY UP & SIGN IT! I SAID "HOLD UP I WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHT IM SIGNING." HE GIVES ME A DIRTY LOOK THEN WALKS OUT THE DOOR AND SAYS COME HERE! ANGRILY SO I GATHER MY THINGS CAUSE I FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE ALREADY. SO HE ESCORTS ME OUTSIDE AND KICKS ME OUT! REALLY ALL BECAUSE I DIDNT RUSH TO SIGN MY LIFE AWAY!! RIGHT AWAY I FELT A RELIEF BECAUSE SOMETHING WAS FISHY ABOUT THIS PLACE! RIGHT BEFORE THIS HAPPENED THO A CURRENT EMPLOYEE OFWERNER WARNED EVERYONE IN LINE THT IF YOUR FROM FLA YOUR ABOUT TO GET SCREWED! APARENTLY THEY HAD SCREWED HIM & HE HAD BEEN WITH THEM 9 MONTHS GETTING SCREWED & WHEN HE WOULD WANT HOME TIME THEY SCREWED HIM NOW HES BACK TYRING TO GET OUT AGAIN BUT THEVE TAKEN 30 DAYS! TO GET HIM A LOAD OUT OF FLA REALLY! HE SAYS MAN YALL MAKUN A BIG MISTAKE! I ASKED Y U STILL HERE? HE SAYS I MADE A MISTAKE COMING HERE! NOW HE OWES $ AND HAS TO REPAY I GUESS BFR HE CAN GO SOMEWHERE ELSE! I LEFT HAPPY. LATR FOUND OUT THEY PAY THERE DRIVERS THE LOWEST IN THE INDUSTRY! WHEWW I DODGED A BULLET! I WILL DO BETTER RESEARCH NEXTIME BUT THEY JUST STRAIGHT UP LIED TALKN BOUT THEY PAY .34 cpm. THATS BULL! MORE LIKE .27cpm THATS TRASH! WERNER YOUR RECRUITERS LIED!!** VERY DISAPPOINTED BUT LIFE GOES ON**
     
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  3. Byx

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    Werner is a CDL mill. Werner is a Mega Carrier. There are some things to know about all CDL mill/Mega Carriers:

    1. You will make lower CPM. You will get less miles. This is about what they say you could make.

    2. You will be a number in their system.

    3. They won't hold your hand forever.

    4. They expect you to follow their rules, they want you to know them (They'll give you a book).

    5. Once you upgrade you will feel a little lonely, and out of place. Don't worry, just do your job safely and productively.

    The initial period after getting off the trainer's truck is going to be the worst for you. You'll make less money than you expect, and you will probably be spending to much of it at truckstops. You won't know the ropes well enough to really work the system so you won't get a tremendous amount of money just yet. However, going to a place like Werner and complaining about bad pay after 3 weeks is silly.

    Here are some things that I decided to note when I drove for Werner:

    1. Their Trailers are poorly maintained, and depending on your luck the drivers take very poor care of their trucks; expect lots of things to be broken on your truck, things they won't want to fix. (Armwrests, shelf doors, shelves, cubbies, 12v plugins etc)

    2. They do not allow inverters (Cigarette ones).

    3. They use trip pack and EFS cards which I really hated.

    4. They have lots of accessory pay, and you don't have to submit forms to get it; they will give it to you (Layover, detention, and maintenance pay you have to ask for).

    5. The drivers at Werner are a bit seasoned. I hate to say it, but the large majority of them are leavings from other companies. They are rude, nasty, and unfriendly for the most part. When I drove for Werner I avoided all of their terminals and facilities as well as I could, because their drivers were all so unwelcome.


    Keep in mind though that this will be true of every starter company for the most part. PAM may pay more per mile, but you get less Miles. Swift will put you in a nicer truck, but they have stricter rules. Werner lets you pick your own fuel stops (I did all TA) but they have their own set of ills.

    If you want to give Werner a shot, and understand that life in a Mega Carrier isn't going to be a dream job. They'll expect you to be efficient once you're in your truck, and if you aren't you'll sit a lot. They aren't a terrible place to work for, and Werner is one of the good guys when it comes to getting experience for a better job. The people at Omaha won't trash you for quitting (So long as you don't do something dumb, like quit under dispatch, abandon the truck or something else). They will forgive minor mistakes or accidents and they will get your foot in the door.


    There are other choices too if you're simply looking for a way into trucking:

    Con-Way Truckload
    PAM
    Swift
    US Xpress
    Werner
    JB Hunt
    Schneider
    Stevens

    Think about what you eventually want to do when you pick your company. If you want to get into fuel/chemical hauling, Schneider will train you on tanker. If you want to get into LTL work, Con-Way Truckload is the little brother to Con-Way Freight (One of the largest LTL companies). Werner has an extensive Reefer program if you are interested in that line of work (Always will be a demand for Reefer work). Several of the starters do flatbed work, if you are interested in that road it's good money. Also, keep in mind that most of the starters are on ELOGS, which will soon be a mandated requirement. So you'll get that training for later.

    The way I would pick my company for cutting my teeth would be based on these things:

    1. How far do you live from one of their drop yards, or terminals.
    2. Do you live in one of their freight lanes (This will affect how long it takes to get a load after hometime, or getting a load to hometime).
    3. If they offer comforts you desire. (APUs on trucks, Inverters, Pet Pass, Sirius Satellite radio[conway does this], Prepass, EZpass, PikePass, Sunpass, Peachpass, TXtag and other toll tags.)
     
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  4. X-Country

    X-Country Medium Load Member

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    just wait till you get assigned a nice long load and right in the middle of it, Net-Ops takes your load right out from under you and you get a qualcomm msg telling you to split off at a werner drop yard. you get the miles you drove...but you get screwed out of the rest. happened to me today. 1500 mile trip and I'm only getting 1100 of it thanks to net-ops stealing it.

    You wanna talk about pissed off...i was livid. Net-Ops is your monday-friday, 8 am - 5 pm, i dont work weekends because my wife wants me home type drivers. If your load is on their lane and they want it...they will take it and there's nothing you can do about it.


    pretty much


    depends. if you didn't pay attention while out with your trainer...then no, you won't do well at all. If you paid attention, asked lots of questions and yes asked questions about how to play the game and manipulate the system like I did...then yes, you will be alright, because I've been doing well for myself. not great, but well enough to survive and stay afloat and I'm getting better.



    most of the trailers I have seen are in pretty good shape. It's also up to the drive to submit a maint request if there's a problem. macro 24, in the comments section tell them it's at werner dy + city/state, and they'll send someone out to fix it. it's that easy. they do fix their stuff.

    I've seen 2 trailers so far that were questionable or bad. every issue my truck has had, has been fixed upon request.

    My truck smelled like cigarettes when I got it, but otherwise it was in great shape. well maintained, nothing major. I had a few fuses out on cigarette lighter outlets, a mechanic brought fuses, replaced them and tested the cigarette outlets (Dallas terminal), and sent me on my merry way.


    wrong. they do not allow you to wire up a power inverter that runs to the battery or electrical system. you may use a 12v power inverter.



    i dont get the EFS card thing anyhow. They give you a fuel card...why not just issue the driver's a fleet credit card, and if you don't submit a receipt, then it comes out of your check? I have no issues with TripPak...i scan my in with a scanner and the TripPak software in my truck. simple, fast, easy and done. no waiting in line at truck stops or terminals, no trippak envelopes that were dropped in the box and never received, no mobile errors.


    what? Everyone I have met has been very nice and helpful out on the road. Had a guy who helped me backup at the Springfield, OH terminal at the fuel pumps (security guard didn't tell me to drop my trailer first and I didn't know any better). I had another guy in Long Beach at my very first delivery watch my backing and help out a little. All the driver's I've met at Denver, Dallas, Springfield and Fontana have been AWESOME to me. maybe that's cause I'm a girl?


    i like that though, cause it gives the students and new drivers the experience of trip planning appropriately.


    exactly. they're a starting point, but get experience and seat time and then move on quickly. nothing longer than a year.
     
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  5. Allen3072

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    What kind of trucks does werner team driver have?
     
  6. X-Country

    X-Country Medium Load Member

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    Peterbilt 587's (but as those get higher mileage, they are being phased out).

    Werner is not buying any new Peterbilts currently.

    They have a ton of brand new Kenworth T680's over at the Springfield, OH terminal.

    Not sure if they are still using Internationals and Volvos or Freightliners, but I've seen plenty of them out there.

    also, teams get tractor assignment priority and mechanical repair priority. they are currently offering $7500 sign on bonus for teams as well. ($3750 each driver).
     
  7. ayubirana

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    Sorry you had suck a bad experience with WERNER. You know what WERNER stands for??
    "We Employ Retards No Education Required".
    But my question is, your profile says you have 18 years of commercial driving experience, yet you mentioned above that you have driven 400,000 safe miles. You should have almost 2 million miles !! How did you manage you drive 400K miles in your 18 years of commercial driving. And why there would be a trainer assigned to a veteran driver with experience of such length.
     
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  8. Davezilla

    Davezilla Medium Load Member

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    This is a load. Ive been to that Terminal... we have more guys from Florida than any other state.

    0.27cpm in Florida is actually not anywhere near the lowest. Ask anybody working for CR England or Stevens. They get substantially lower... especially if they signed up for their CDL. Werner is filled with CR England guys... I see them all the time.

    And what the heck kinda contract are you talking about? The only things you sign in orientation are three one page sheets... everything else is on the computer... and you have all the time in the world to read it.

    Nothing about your post resembles ANYTHING like what its like to be with Werner. Ive been through their orientation three times... once as a student, once after I took time off to care for a dying relative, and once after doing 6 months of flatbed. None of the times did anybody do any of the garbage that you are claiming.

    I did however, go to US Xpress orientation, and they made the entire group wait all day in a line, and fired someone who couldnt hold their piss after a few hours in line. Werner is nothing like US Xpress, CR England, or any of the other CDL mills.

    If you are going to try and accuse someone of something, you need to get your story straight. Because there are thousands and thousands of Werner drivers who know exactly what its like... and nothing you said is remotely true.

    FYI, the pay rate for 48 state is 30cpm, and many dedicated routes pay up to 38 cpm starting pay. Ive never made less than 29 cpm with Werner. If you think Werner is so bad, go talk to anybody who has been with any other starter company. Im sure they would love to get the 36 cpm I was making at 4 months when I went to dedicated. And its only gotten better.

    And Ive never had problems getting home, but you have to realize... you cant just choose the state with the worst freight rates and the worst unemployment to live in, and expect people to kiss your rear end. I moved to Georgia to get a good job... its called "responsibility". I visit family in Florida when I get a chance... but to expect a company to send me to the one state that had nearly no freight and immense unemployment... thats not reasonable.

    Jeez.
     
  9. Davezilla

    Davezilla Medium Load Member

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    Dude, there is so much wrong with this post, I dont know where to even begin.

    First off, you listed Werner as an alternative to Werner. You listed US Xpress... US Xpress is in the bottom 15% of unsafe companies. Are you friggin serious man? Do you know anything about trucking at all? It took me 5 minutes to look up the CSA scores...

    Your other alternatives... PAM is notoriously awful company... I had a student who said he got paid $78 a week, so he came to Werner instead... and was telling me about how much better it was here.

    JB Hunt???? They dont hire new drivers. Neither does Conway.

    Maybe you should read a little before you go making wild accusations and telling people to go places they have no possible hope of getting into.

    And there are only two companies with higher CSA score that routinely take new drivers, Crete and Schneider. And they both have extremely high standards.

    Werner has three times better CSA score than US Xpress or CR England. They have half the accident rate, and 3 times better than CRST.

    Before you go giving people crazy advice, how about doing 5 minutes of hard work and actually researching what you are talking about? Some people actually use this forum to make life decisions... its wrong to mislead new students like that.

    Oh, and Werner cant be a CDL mill. They dont have their own school. Do you have any idea how crazy that sounds to Werner drivers, when you try and say we are a CDL mill... and we dont even have a CDL program?

    Jeez man... pick it up a bit.

    Werner isnt the best company, but they are a hell lot better than the vast majority of starter companies. They dont steal your pay like US Xpress and CR England do... no fines for going out of route or because you got too much fuel at the fuel stop. I choose where I fuel out of a huge book of Werner fuel stops... I stop where I want, and I take the route that is the best route. Not even Crete will let you do that.

    So dont tell me that Werner is some awful company. There is a reason Werner has almost 10,000 trucks and the thieves at US Xpress and CR England have less than half as many.

    Go take a list of the mot successful trucking companies... Werner is the only starter company in the entire list, except Schneider... who is union. Are you going to tell me that Werner is bad, when they are the only real starter company that can compete with the LTL companies and other immensely experienced multi-billion dollar companies like UPS and FEDEX?

    Werner isnt the best, but they sure as hell arent the worst.
     
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  10. X-Country

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    that's a load of crap. I am only making $0.26 a mile for being a lower 48 OTR driver.
     
  11. T_TRUCKER.

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    Lmao!!! Look buddy, I've known 2 people that worked/and still there. EVERYDAY he has somthing else happen, whether waiting hours on loads and by hours I mean 8+ the longest he told me was 11! Problems with his truck/trailer he was in Nebraska terminal for 7 days waiting for his truck to get worked on. His recruiter told him he would start at .33 only to find out that was a lie. And my other friend that quit has plenty of story's aswell. I would put Werner at THE BOTTOM of the list, along with CRE. Every driver I've talked too has nothing but complaints! If your new and want a good starter company check out

    sni
    melton
    roehl
    SRT

    theres ALOT better than Werner I'm glad that the very few people "seem" to be happy, and it's working out for them.. From all I hear and heard STAY AWAY
     
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