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Old 04.08.2008
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Its the David And Goliath Story with no ending Yet!....Im glad to see the small guy has a chance to voice there conflicts against the corporate DEVIL Werner Ent. As a recent grad of a trucking school in Vegas and being a ROOKIE to the trucking force i had no idea i was about to be bent over the werner corporate barrel. After i completed my intership i was off to see the wonderfull wizard at werner. A 7hr grayhound bus ride to get 257 miles crap i could of rode a bicycle and got there quicker, anyway at orientation at werner we do paper work and piss in the cup and wait for the results. 3 days later they tell me they have missplaced or lost my speciman and i need to piss again. Now the truth comes out that the nurse enters the wrong ssn on the coc form and i'm starting to get upset all my classmates are gone or waiting on trainers and im still PENDING???.
Now a conflict develops with the so called saftyman cause he's making me feel like i'v done somthing wrong. The nurse put the wrong ssn on my form
and it came back positive so they kicked me out and dac me. Wasnt even my speciman as far as i know havn't smoked in years wtf???. Now im protesting it with usis dac and i cant get a job driving till it clears. I'm told this can take up to 30 days.Werner wont remove it they kicked me out of my motel and would not pay for my ride home i was standed with no money and no ride and they didnt feed me for 5 days while i was at orientation. With no income for months i thought i'd make it with the pay they promissed me at school from werner.I realized i had a problem when someone thru away a half eatn sandwich and i was going to eat it out of the trash can. Can you say homless and starving??? I still have no job and i cant even begine to tell you what a nightmare this has been for me. I lost 19lbs working for werner for 5 days and i have to keep telling myself its a blessing in disguise. I'v been dihonored and humiliated in the trucking industry. The recruiter at swift looked at me liked i robed a bank and killed someone when i applied,i had no idea that werner blackballed me in the dac system. At least he gave me a return ticket home!!!
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I'm assuming your telling the truth here. Not calling you a liar but drivers do lie about there smoking habits all the time. I would get a attorney immediately and get a hair analysis done. Hair samples give more history then a simple urine analysis. If you have to, go sell some plasma or blood. To pay for this test. Assuming your test comes back negative. This will be your proof against Werner and there deceptive practice. Also, Go back to the school you just graduated from and talk to a instructor and see if they can offer some advice.
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No lie.!!!

7 days after i left werner i pissed for swift and had no problems with DOT fed screen but they said no thank you after they hit the dac system and called werner also i'm a officer in the Merchant Marines and just did a random 16 days prior to attending trucking school with no problem and took one on 03/08 befor attending school also took one last week for a truck company and had no problem, there is more to the story at werner orietation but i find it like kicking a dead horse at this point. Thanks for the reply. The hair thing is not required and neither is blood since DNA profiling can be optained from this process and violates your civil rights that is why they use urin because it is sterile and blood can filter your results in less then 10 to 15 days tru your bodys biochemistry process.
And yes i did seek legal on this matter . Would you piss if you thought there was even a slight chance there would be a positive result NO but i gave werner 2 samples......go figure!!.
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Ok, I was believing your story to a point.. But I am finding it hard to believe that you could not talk to anyone at the orientation that would investigate things further before you were kicked to the curb. If it was me, I would be squatting in the reception area waiting to talk to someone, anyone, else.. at least until the cops came for me....

Your comments about DNA have tipped the scales to where I think there are other things going on here.
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Far as I know he is right, dna can be obtained from blood/hair. It can also be obtained from urine/salavia. I've found Werner to be fairly easy going when it comes to testing/solving issues. Then again you have to approach them like a reasonable human being with some amount of restraint in what you say/do. Yelling and freaking doesn't generally work at any company.
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Far as I know he is right, dna can be obtained from blood/hair. It can also be obtained from urine/salavia. I've found Werner to be fairly easy going when it comes to testing/solving issues. Then again you have to approach them like a reasonable human being with some amount of restraint in what you say/do. Yelling and freaking doesn't generally work at any company.
Yes sure.. DNA could be obtained from the hair.. my whole point is, that there is something wrong here if that is such a concern.. and especially done by your own attorney ?? .. can you say "Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs ?"

Then let's examine the lost for 3 days part of the story.. Specimen missing for three days, but supposedly marked with wrong SSN , asked to retest and then is asked to leave because of failing the test. He believes it is someone else's, and he is being screwed over... Let's imagine you are the technician who screwed up and wrote the wrong SSN and this test comes up positive for drugs... are you really not going to retest the new sample ? .. Do you really imagine such a scenario ? .. sure the tests cost money, but it is extremely unlikely that there wasn't a retest done with the new sample. This scenario is as "paranoid" as imagining someone is going to do something with your DNA.

There are also more drugs than marijuana that are tested for.. I suppose the "poppy seeds on my muffin" story that I have heard might be plausible.. but since he didn't eat... not likely.
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There are also more drugs than marijuana that are tested for.. I suppose the "poppy seeds on my muffin" story that I have heard might be plausible.. but since he didn't eat... not likely.
I'll just be glad when they use a method to determine "high" or "not high".

Want to get scorned by EVERYONE you speak to. Start asking questions about your medication, and how it will affect a drug test. After 3 days of asking questions, I finally gave up and researched the info on the web. I had a drug screen coming up that I was aware of, and wanted to provide documentation from the Doctor if needed.

I was on a pain killing solution, that provided IMMEDIATE relief. Great stuff None addictive.

Then I was really mad! All I wanted to know, was would my medication cause a positive (false or real) with a drug test. And NONE of the so called professions I talked to would give me the answer. Which by the way, was no, it would not.

I just pi$$es me off to be treated like a common drug addict when I have legitimate concerns about what I stick in my body...BECAUSE we are tested on such a regular/irregular basis.

Luckily for me, I am back were I belong. Once again, I have access to Doctors and Pharmacist that have known me all my life. And they WILL answer my questions without batting an eye.
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I really dont care what any of you think I was there and was miss treated. The safty team was the issue from the start. If someone is guilty of a fraud it would be Werner. I tested in good faith they lost my sample so they say. also if your so smart Mr. I'm paranoid then i'm sure your aware of the CFR's in the proper handling of collected specimans. I wont quote you those because im sure it's OFF THE Triple beam in your bedroom. If you dont know for sure whom your talking about then you should ask your mom about talking smack about people!!! I'm sure glad every one is the professional truck driver i read about. go to ripoff.com and see how many Paranoid people that have or are filling suites on werner or i suppose it the muffins they must be eating at those truck stops.
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I have not heard for werner treating there students and new drivers like that. I have been with them for 2 years and own trucks that were leased on there and I am a trainer. It is normal for any company not to pay your was through orientation. They will not pay you way home if they send you home, that is you problem. If they did lost your dot treat or put the wrong ssi number there have them do a dna test. That would be the first thing I would say. If yours was positive they that is normal for any company to fired you. You have to realize now that you cdl and you dac is your life now you are a professional and you can not do anything wrong. SO many be you will find luck at JB hunt of swift. they will hire anyone.
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you really got screwed since you were a recent CDL grad from a school --> most drivers don't drink or do drugs and the ones that do don't last.

You can either challenge their test or not. If you really want to drive challenge it.

Werner is already fairly close to the bottom:

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