Attention wannabes considering werner

Discussion in 'Werner' started by LetsChangeThis, Jan 4, 2009.

  1. LetsChangeThis

    LetsChangeThis Bobtail Member

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    Somehow werner's recruiters/orientation people fail/refuse to explain you your very basic right to know how
    much they'd pay you when you start working for them. So I do the favor...

    Here's the deal: Regardless of what you ask for or what they promise you, you WILL be put on a regional
    division. like it or not. If you expect starting off at 26 cents per mile don't be surprised. Their
    rgional division pay is far less than that. FOr example the western regional pay is what werner likes to
    call "sLIDING" payscale. The truth is you get paid 21 cents per mile, 20 cents if you choose per diem, over 95
    percent of your miles. And 15 cents per mile, 14 if you choose per diem, for deahead miles.

    Now keep in mind that in this business your pay is based on the miles you drive, not the rest of working hours
    spending on loading, onloading, paperwork, etc. Do the math and you realize that you average no more than 8 to
    9 dollars per hour. The only difference with a regular job is that you don't get paid for long hours of overtime and you are away from home most of the time.

    I could go on & on...

    People; don't let greedy/scam companies like werner, swift and cr england take advantage of your decency. They
    live on their drivers hard work and dedication and yet refuse to pay them what they deserve. If they'd pay
    their drivers 2 or 3 times or even more they'd still make a hefty profit, just like the union companies do. But
    they are greedy and the last thing they care is the drivers.

    Be smart people. As long as they get away with this by recruiting new drivers under slavery wages, they won't
    change their behavior. Do the right thing and make a difference.
     
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  3. chief

    chief Heavy Load Member

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    what are you suggesting? that a company pay an employee MORE than what that employee is willing to work for?? do you go to the grocery store and offer to pay MORE than what the store is willing to accept for an item?!?!? last trucking job I had I only made about $7 - 8 on an hourly basis even at 37.5 cents/mile. low miles+ long waiting times = LOW pay.
     
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  4. LetsChangeThis

    LetsChangeThis Bobtail Member

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    I'm suggesting that these companies pay their drivers what they deserve, not slavery wages that drivers barely survive on.

    I'm suggesting that the recruiters be honest to wannabes about their pay. so when they receive their first paycheck they don't sit for hours wondering why are they getting underpaid, and what they got themselves into.

    I'm suggesting that new drivers boycott these scam companies. Otherwise other companies would say to themselves "wait a minute. If they can get away w/ ripping
    off the drivers, we can too"
     
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  5. Pawn_is_King

    Pawn_is_King Bobtail Member

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    I agree with what you are saying, I checked out every company while in school and threw Werners app. away. Went with usx and some things came up where I had to be at home for more then 30 days so I had to go through rehire, problem is they (usx) are not hiring from Mi. right now. Every decent company wanted a refresher of 40 hrs because of the time it's been since I drove. But I dont have $1500.00 for the class but Werner said they would take me with no refresher so I had no choice but to go with werner. But I know what they are and I am using them for my refresher, as soon as I test out and upgrade to solo driver I am so out of there. To answer the one guys question about paying more at the store, when I go to the store I know exactly how much that food cost. They dont keep it a seceret and then charge twice as much for it at the register. The point is people need to be told how werner operates then the driver pool will start to dry up. As for me I know how they are but I have no choice for the next 2 or 3 months
     
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  6. luvtheroad

    luvtheroad Road Train Member

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    I am currently going to school for my CDL, at this point I have HazMat, tanker, double/triples endorsements. Werner is recruiting at all the major schools, when you look them, they are really impressive. 50+years in biz, started with one truck, 8,0000 trucks, 24,000 trailers, etc. Some of the recruiters zero in on individuals who aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer. The promise of a shiny new truck and driving for a big company is all they can see. Money? Oh, duh I forgot to ask how much, but I'm gonna drive a big shiny truck. Then when it comes pay time, gosh no money... How do I eat, what am I gonna send the family? We need to ask and make sure we understand the pay scale. Ask questions, if you have to write down questions you want to ask, do it,but make them tell you what you need to know. Remember, we all work for reward. The company we are interviewing for knows all about us, its not wrong that we know all about them and what we are going to receive from them for doing a good days work. Ask questions, if you don't like what you hear, by all means find another place to work. If you don't know how much money you will be paid before you take the job, shame on you. Do your homework on any company you might apply for.
     
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  7. wetsand

    wetsand Bobtail Member

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    way i see it:

    1- what makes a driver's time so valuable? i mean how hard is it to sit in one place and watch the truck go?

    2- it's an easy job (yes the actual job itself is very easy, hold the steering wheel and push the gas or brake), but the environment and the conditions in which you have to perform that easy job add to it and make it intolerable at times for some.

    3- if you're not the sharpest tool in the shed, then this works out perfect for you.

    4- if you are (or think you are) the sharpest tool then wtf are you doing driving a truck?:mconfused:

    5- remember the only reason you still have a job is because they havn't found a way for the truck to be controlled remotely.

    6- the person posting this is not responsible for any flame resulting form the hurt feelings it may have caused:biggrin_25516:

    7- have a sense of humor when reading this.:occasion5:

    now on a bit more serious note:

    what should a trucker's time be worth in your opinion? no experience,no education, possibly a record (remember just because someone is squeaky clean doesn't make them more valuable when they're in the same pool as someone who's not so for all intents and purposes you're the same as the ex-felon who rolled over someone at some point lol) right off the banana boat (CDL school in this case).

    what's your time really worth "for what you're performing" from their point of view?, i know some people think their time is worth mountains of gold
     
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  8. chief

    chief Heavy Load Member

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    do you really think trucking is the only industry in this country which has had plummeting wages over the last few decades? of course I know plenty of folks perpetually on the verge of starvation who wouldn't drive a truck if the starting salary was 100K a year. they might be poor, but at least they're at home. I'm thinking I'D rather be poor and be at home, than be poor AND sitting in a urine soaked truck stop parking lot.
     
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  9. Sandlapper

    Sandlapper Light Load Member

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    When the economy is tanking, CEO's and upper echelon should not be paid a bonus, especially if they have been bailed out by the tax payers or had to cut workers. Some might argue, that is the free market, but in a truley free market there are no bailouts. By the way is Mexitown NC anywhere near Charlotte?
     
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  10. dancnoone

    dancnoone "Village Idiot"

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    Exactly.

    It's much easier to grow a garden at home, than in the truck.

    It's also easier to skin critters at home, than in a truck. Safer too. :D

    I've been poor. I mean really poor, as a kid. And it sucks to say the least. But I learned to eat a lot of things, other people won't touch. And the Navy taught me to eat things, I wouldn't touch.
     
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  11. Batdog

    Batdog Bobtail Member

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    ...I have a business degree, with 22+ years in Ops Management. Now at 51 years old, my wife and I team drive out of choice. No records here, and yes, experience. You might say we are "semi" retired. So, the stereotype stupid driver image MAY not be quite right.

    Next, I would ask you to sit at your kitchen table in one spot for 6 hours in a chair, take a 15 minute coffee break, then sit again for 3 more hours. Now tomorrow rinse and repeat. Do this for 8 days, and now ask again how hard it is.

    Lastly, I take your post with the humor as you asked. Please grant me the same; Apologies if I mis-interpreted your post.
     
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