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Lookin' at 2009 WESTERN STAR 4900SA

Discussion in 'Western Star Forum' started by andrewklim, Dec 24, 2011.

  1. Dec 24, 2011 #1
    andrewklim

    andrewklim Bobtail Member

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    Dear friends! Please share your wisdom on this truck. it has MBE4000, 150K on it. 18spd tranny. Cons and pros please! I have to make a decision quick, need your help!
     
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  3. Dec 24, 2011 #2
    American-Trucker

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    mercades engines suck.....




    American Trucker
     
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  4. Dec 24, 2011 #3
    ampm wayne

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    I would not buy a Mercedes motor. Lots of problems. 2009 was a bad year for engine manufactures. This was the transition time for engine companies to meet EPA standards.
    I think I am familiar with the truck you are concidering. Is it Maroon is color with a BIG CROME visor? That truck has been on the market for a long time.
    Not meaning to be negative but, that Mercades motor is going to be expensive.
     
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  5. Dec 24, 2011 #4
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    Mercedes is lightweight, more displacement than ISM Cummins and a bit less than C13 Cat but it is not a big block engine so won't be as durable.

    I've never driven a Mercedes that new, and I did put over 150 k on one with almost 500 k to start with; the engine wasn't that big a problem.

    What's the rear ratio and tire size, also, the truck should have a DPF on it. I don't know how well that setup works, but it's probably better than competition, couldn't be much worse from what I have seen.
     
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  7. Dec 24, 2011 #5
    Prairie Boy

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    Stay away from Mercedes.
     
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  8. Dec 24, 2011 #6
    andrewklim

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    Exactly! LOL so, you've seen it.
    Well, I'm looking one with a smallest sleeper DOT approves and fresh on miles.
    Thanks for the reply, guys!
     
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  9. Dec 24, 2011 #7
    andrewklim

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    Ratio 3.90 Tires 11R22.5 It's on http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=3195875&
     
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  10. Dec 24, 2011 #8
    keepitsimple

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    A big feed mill my buddy works for, had some. They did not like them at all.
     
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  11. Dec 24, 2011 #9
    underpsi

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    We have 2 04 trucks with Mercedes pre egr. We pull heavy and the engines work hard but they get better mileage then our cats. When they were new we had a ton of problems but ever since they updated the heads (knock on wood) everything has been good with them.
     
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  12. Dec 25, 2011 #10
    andrewklim

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    -4 (don't buy)
    +3 (MBE is OK)
    so far. Considering 1 private positive post,
    I have 4:4 score.
    Most negative experiences came form '04-'05 MBE's. Mostly bad head gaskets, fuel lines, turbos.
    1 negative about '09-transition period to new standards, more "environmental enhancements" that makes engine perform worse.
    Anybody else?
    If possible, please share your own experience with '09 MBE4000.
    Thanks in advance and Merry Christmas!
     
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