New Rules Starting Monday

Discussion in 'YRC' started by BubbaDog, Jun 29, 2013.

  1. Dinomite

    Dinomite Road Train Member

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    Super lost now :(
     
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  3. Sublime

    Sublime Road Train Member

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    Here we go again. There's tons of threads already on this.
     
  4. Wanderingaimlessly

    Wanderingaimlessly Medium Load Member

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    Curious as to what is going to be considered the beginning date for enforcement of the 34 hr restart. What will happen to the drivers that are say 33 hours into a restart Sunday 23:59.
     
  5. Scooter Jones

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    It amazes me sometimes. This info. has only been out there in the public domain now for how long?

    Yet...
     
  6. Wanderingaimlessly

    Wanderingaimlessly Medium Load Member

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    and your point is?
     
  7. fisher guy

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    thanx guys looks like ill be squeezing in my breaks right around the 3 hour mark i like my 11 hr days to much
     
  8. dannythetrucker

    dannythetrucker Road Train Member

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    One part that I think is going to be a bit tricky. If you take a restart one weekend, say starting at 7 p.m. Saturday until 5 a.m. Monday. Then, the following weekend your 34 must start at 7 p.m. Saturday or later. You would not be allowed to take your second 34 from 8 p.m. Friday until 6 a.m. Sunday. That's the 168 hour rule in a nutshell.

    Better learn how to run recap hours if you don't know already.
     
  9. Grumppy

    Grumppy Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    So, if I have been on duty for more than eight hours when I take a break, I cant drive any more? This cant be right. I am not understanding this apparently.... :smt102
     
  10. Sublime

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    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/topics/hos/index.htm



    Summary of Hours-of-Service (HOS) Regulations as of July 2013
    The table below [Download PDF Version] summarizes the changes compared to current rule.
    [TABLE="class: TableFMCSA1, align: center"]
    [TR]
    [TH="class: LeftTableHeadFMCSA, width: 15%, align: center"]PROVISION[/TH]
    [TH="class: LeftTableHeadFMCSA, width: 35%, align: center"]PRIOR RULE[/TH]
    [TH="class: LeftTableHeadFMCSA, width: 47%, align: center"]FINAL RULE - COMPLIANCE DATE JULY 1, 2013[/TH]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TH="class: MiddleTDFMCSA1"] Limitations on minimum "34-hour restarts" [/TH]
    [TD="class: MiddleTDFMCSA1"] None [/TD]
    [TD="class: MiddleTDFMCSA1"] (1) Must include two periods from 1 a.m. to 5 a.m., home terminal time.
    (2) May only be used once per week, 168 hours, measured from the beginning of the previous restart. [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TH="class: MiddleAltTDFMCSA1, bgcolor: #acb4bf"] Rest breaks [/TH]
    [TD="class: MiddleAltTDFMCSA1, bgcolor: #acb4bf"] None except as limited by other rule provisions. [/TD]
    [TD="class: MiddleAltTDFMCSA1, bgcolor: #acb4bf"] May drive only if 8 hours or less have passed since end of driver’s last off-duty or sleeper berth period of at least 30 minutes. [49 CFR 397.5 mandatory “in attendance” time for hazardous materials may be included in break if no other duties performed] [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TH="class: LeftTableHeadFMCSA, align: center"]PROVISION[/TH]
    [TH="class: LeftTableHeadFMCSA, align: center"]PRIOR RULE[/TH]
    [TH="class: LeftTableHeadFMCSA, width: 47%, align: center"]FINAL RULE - COMPLIANCE DATE FEBRUARY 27, 2012[/TH]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TH="class: MiddleTDFMCSA1"] On-duty time [/TH]
    [TD="class: MiddleTDFMCSA1"] Includes any time in CMV except sleeper berth. [/TD]
    [TD="class: MiddleTDFMCSA1"] Does not include any time resting in a parked vehicle (also applies to passengercarrying drivers). In a moving property-carrying CMV, does not include up to 2 hours in passenger seat immediately before or after 8 consecutive hours in sleeper berth. [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TH="class: MiddleAltTDFMCSA1, bgcolor: #acb4bf"]Penalties [/TH]
    [TD="class: MiddleAltTDFMCSA1, bgcolor: #acb4bf"] “Egregious” hours-of-service violations not specifically defined. [/TD]
    [TD="class: MiddleAltTDFMCSA1, bgcolor: #acb4bf"] Driving (or allowing a driver to drive) more than 3 hours beyond the driving-time limit may be considered an “egregious” violation and subject to the maximum civil penalties. Also applies to passenger-carrying drivers. [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TH="class: MiddleTDFMCSA1"] Oilfield exemption [/TH]
    [TD="class: MiddleTDFMCSA1"] “Waiting time” for certain drivers at oilfields (which is off-duty but does extend 14-hour duty period) must be recorded and available to FMCSA, but no method or details are specified for the recordkeeping. [/TD]
    [TD="class: MiddleTDFMCSA1"] “Waiting time” for certain drivers at oilfields must be shown on logbook or electronic equivalent as off duty and identified by annotations in “remarks” or a separate line added to “grid.” [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]

    [TABLE]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: righttableBG"]Summary of HOS Regulations [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD] The following table [Download PDF Version] summarizes the HOS regulations for property-carrying and passenger-carrying CMV drivers. [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD] [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]
    [TABLE="class: TableFMCSA1, align: center"]
    [TR="bgcolor: #990033"]
    [TH="class: LeftTableHeadFMCSA, colspan: 2, align: center"] HOURS-OF-SERVICE RULES [/TH]
    [/TR]
    [TR="bgcolor: #003399"]
    [TH="class: LeftTableHeadFMCSA, width: 49%, align: center"] Property-Carrying CMV Drivers (Valid as of July 1, 2013) [/TH]
    [TH="class: LeftTableHeadFMCSA, width: 51%, align: center"] Passenger-Carrying CMV Drivers [/TH]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: MiddleTDFMCSA1"]11-Hour Driving Limit
    May drive a maximum of 11 hours after 10 consecutive hours off duty. [/TD]
    [TD="class: MiddleTDFMCSA1"]10-Hour Driving Limit
    May drive a maximum of 10 hours after 8 consecutive hours off duty. [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: MiddleAltTDFMCSA1"]14-Hour Limit
    May not drive beyond the 14th consecutive hour after coming on duty, following 10 consecutive hours off duty. Off-duty time does not extend the 14-hour period. [/TD]
    [TD="class: MiddleAltTDFMCSA1"]15-Hour On-Duty Limit
    May not drive after having been on duty for 15 hours, following 8 consecutive hours off duty. Off-duty time is not included in the 15-hour period. [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: MiddleTDFMCSA1"]Rest Breaks
    May drive only if 8 hours or less have passed since end of driver’s last off-duty or sleeper berth period of at least 30 minutes. [49 CFR 397.5 mandatory “in attendance” time may be included in break if no other duties performed] [/TD]
    [TD="class: MiddleTDFMCSA1"]60/70-Hour On-Duty Limit
    May not drive after 60/70 hours on duty in 7/8 consecutive days. [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: MiddleAltTDFMCSA1"]60/70-Hour On-Duty Limit
    May not drive after 60/70 hours on duty in 7/8 consecutive days. A driver may restart a 7/8 consecutive day period after taking 34 or more consecutive hours off duty. Must include two periods from 1 a.m. to 5 a.m. home terminal time, and may only be used once per week, or 168 hours, measured from the beginning of the previous restart. [/TD]
    [TD="class: MiddleAltTDFMCSA1"]Sleeper Berth Provision
    Drivers using a sleeper berth must take at least 8 hours in the sleeper berth, and may split the sleeper berth time into two periods provided neither is less than 2 hours. [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: MiddleTDFMCSA1"]Sleeper Berth Provision
    Drivers using the sleeper berth provision must take at least 8 consecutive hours in the sleeper berth, plus a separate 2 consecutive hours either in the sleeper berth, off duty, or any combination of the two. [/TD]
    [TD="class: MiddleTDFMCSA1"] [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]
     
  11. Wanderingaimlessly

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    I hate running recap. It always seemed to screw me on miles. What do the guys do that have 10-11.75 each taken away from the 70?
     
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