Two truckers got in an altercation at a truck stop in Florida over parking spaces. The incident ended with a broken window, gunshots, and one of them in a county jail.
An unnamed trucker was sleeping in his truck at the TA Travel Center just off I-75 and State Route 44. According to Villages-News.com, the driver woke up when a man started banging on his truck. That man was 51-year-old Brian James Cozzie, a trucker based out of Michigan.
The trucker claims that Cozzie was yelling at him to move his truck which was taking up two parking spaces. When the unnamed driver refused and closed his window, Cozzie allegedly used a thermos to break into the cab. The driver claims that Cozzie then appeared to reach for a gun in his waistband. In response, the driver fired a shot from his own gun into the air in order to deter Cozzie from entering his truck.
When authorities arrived on the scene, Cozzie was arrested and charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, burglary with assault or battery, and criminal mischief.
No charges have been filed against the unnamed driver.
Source: overdrive, villagesnews, sumtercountysheriff
Jim says
I thought we couldn’t carry guns, why does every story about a gun here involve 2 drivers that both had guns?
Wade says
I thought the same thing. I have a concealed weapons permit. .maybe I need to look into this closer.
Doug says
There is no law on the books that restrict drivers from carrying. Ppl need to stop believing everything they hear…. do your research!
Paul says
U got that right
John says
Just make sure your state has reciprocity carry in all the states you travel in / through. You should know the laws and your rights for each state, ignorance is not an excuse.
Craig Peters says
Except your company policy which I think is absurd
jd tomblin says
You are wrong, you need to do your research, until then why don’t you tell dot and law enforcement you have one in your truck…lol
Bill says
No they are not wrong. There is no federal law concerning commercial truck drivers and firearms. If you have the proper Permits/License and can legally carry in the state you are driving in or that state allows the carrying of firearms without a permit you are legal.Feb 11, 2018. The only restriction other then local laws would be your company but permitting it.
James says
You are wrong. And a simple search will prove it to you. THERE IS NO LAWS STATING THAT YOU CANNOT CARRY A GUN IN A CMV. There are state laws restricting how you carry it. There are state laws that require various permits or have reciprocity with other state CCW permits. There are company regulations that prohibit it. But there is NO LAW PROHIBITING IT. As a matter of fact if you switch from a handgun to a nice short barrel shotgun you are legal in all 48.
Rebecca Holtorf says
Its perfectly legal as long as you are in compliance with the state you are in. It’s the companies that don’t allow it not the DOT. As with many other drivers on here, I have done my research as well as being licensed for enhanced carry in most states.
Brad says
Got stopped by state trooper the other day and when i hand him my license he seen my permit to carry in my wallet. He was like do you have a weapon in truck because i see you have a permit.. I said yes sir.. He ask were was it and i told him in my lock box.. He never said anything else about it.. Stop believing what you hear.. I would rather be caught with it then without it
Alan says
It’s your company that forbids it. You might have a carry permit. But that permit doesn’t mean shit if you go into a state that doesn’t allow you to carry. Or going to Canada.
Mike F says
It is against the law to carry a weapon in a truck without a federal permit you cannot cross state lines with out it you need to check it out
PAUL PEREZ says
Title 18 U.S.C. 926a: Interstate transportation of firearms
Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.
The Department of Transportation’s official response to CDL’s carrying concealed is clear enough. “Carrying concealed weapons is a matter of state law. Your question can best be answered by the appropriate state government.”
Michael Jameson says
As long as the state you are traveling through recognizes your state’s permit your legal
Michael Jameson says
Evey time I get stopped for an inspection I show both licences. Inform them that I am armed. Only one state trooper asked to hold on to it during the inspection. Then he gave it back and said thank you.
Inanyminet says
As far as I know you CANNOT carry a gun in a commercial vehicle whether intrastate or interstate even though you may have a concealed permit, you would need a federal carry permit to travel interstate with a gun.
Jason Pike says
That would be incorrect. Ive been a driver for more than 20 years. You actually dont need a damn thing to carry a handgun.
Levi says
And your wrong!! like it was all ready said do your research
Jude says
There is no such thing as a “federal carry permit”. A CCW/CPL is issued by the state where you live. Most rules/laws regarding “no firearms in the truck” are from the company to limit its liability.
Vera says
Absolutely correct! Go to USconcelled.com and that will give you all the info you need to get a permit in 28 states.
Jose a rangel says
That is very true there is no such thing of a federal permit lol I’m a owner operator from California with a non resident ccw from Virginia which allows me to carry in 28 states these ppl need to do more research
D.J. O'Brien says
Actually there is a HR218 that is Federal but that is only for retired peace officers. Drivers who fall under that category probably would be ok carrying all over.
Rebecca Holtorf says
I’m glad you said that Jude.
Randy says
No you don’t need a federal permit, it all depends on if the state recognizes your states permit.
Bill Brady says
Negative K
mel lynch says
Not true. You can carry concealed as long as the state you are licensed in has a reciprocity agreement with the state that you are in.
C. Gruesbeck says
False, unless its a passenger carrying vehicle.(van/bus carrying 15 or more pax)
Mike says
I have in twice during inspections. Both said or asked what I am carrying my reply colt 1911.
Mike says
Wrong research it.
Phillip says
No that’s not correct. No different than carrying a gun in your car. You need to comply with the laws of the state you are in
Dee says
Wrong
Lewis Schappert says
There are only certain States you can carry in or due to company policy
Richie says
You may carry a weapon. Look at your states reciprocity laws. Now the company you may work for may not allow to carry, but it is NOT against the law. Do your research. Just don’t believe me. I carried in a truck for 25 years. Never a problem!
Am says
You just have to be sure of the gun laws in each state your passing through. And most companies and placed of business have rules against carrying a firearm
Don Porche' says
It depends on the company that you work for, you can carry when leased on with landstar as long as you follow all of the required guidelines for the that you are traveling thru.
Recon65 says
I have a permit as well and asked a Florida Hwy patrol officials, even if you have a Legal permit you will go to Jail if found on you or in your truck we can’t carry on a Commercial Vehicle, even if you own your truck.
Chris says
Who told you that we couldn’t carry?
Koss says
Relax it’s one more plastic American obedient worker
Barry Randall says
You can, just some company policies don’t allow it and will terminate your employment of they find out. But it’s not like there’s a shortage of driver jobs 🙂
duh says
It’s a “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” situation. With an added “Don’t let the mechanics find it when they work on your truck either” clause.
Insurance companies charge more if trucking companies ‘knowingly’ allow firearms.
So if the trucking company says “No guns in our trucks”, there are definitely a few that really mean it, but most of the time, its to save money on insurance (granted, it all goes out the window if the gun shows up later after an incident, but the old saying “Judged by 12 vs. Carried by 6” comes into play here)
Rebecca Holtorf says
Being female and solo I always carried. Worried about being safe far outweighed fear of losing a job. I couldn’t agree more with your statement. The only reason I don’t carry now is my Husband is now with me 24/7 and we do a lot of DOD.
Cynthia Steiner says
That’s exactly correct. It a company policy.
Anne says
We don’t need any criminal marks on our CDLs, but once I did take 2 spaces up because of a shortage of head room to get out of these rest areas!
Who planned these with such little room to pull out, and be able to not hit the truck next to you??!!
Catbirdkirby says
My company won’t allow it. Told me that only special government drivers can carry.
Paul says
Well that’s BS isn’t it!
Groo says
You are getting smoke blown up your hind end. What else have they been telling you?
Jay says
Its bs….
George says
No true, their is no federal law that said you can’t carry a gun in your truck after all it is your home.
David says
Your company doesn’t allow it. Many don’t. They can fire you for violating company policy. That doesn’t make it illegal. Hence, the other driver remained nameless. He didn’t want his name in the article where his employer, or a fellow employee might see it.
Deborah.dickerson says
I believe you can carry one but if you are not a owner operator your company’s policies override even though you are a permitted carrier make sense huh
duh says
Gonna guess they will figure it out, they probably know already. But if not, they gonna know when the truck with a bullet hole in the roof turns up…
Russell Birch says
Ummmm…. he fired a shot IN THE TRUCK! So he needs a new window and a BULLET HOLE plugged. Pretty sure his “company” is going to know who it is despite keeping his name out of the news story. Lol
Tom says
Only 007 can carry.
Felix Paladino says
I guess they told you They are a good company to work for and paying you good with good benefits that can’t be beat
Robb says
Truck drivers are allowed to carry.
However, if you are a company driver, lots and lots of companies will not let you carry in their vehicles because that is their policy.
Paul Logan says
Bet they told you that you are the highest paid driver also.
L. Harmon says
Don’t get caught in MA,CT or NY with a gun.
Automatic jail you go.
michael sullivan says
For sure along with a healthy fine upwards to10,000 dollars
Kevin P Barakauskas says
MA, NY, NJ, IL are states they don’t have reciprocity of other states concealed carry permit. Most states do have reciprocity of each other and honor the others concealed carry permits.
D. Joseph says
Plaxico burress comes to mind. And he shot himself in the leg with his own gun in that club, but went to jail because it wasn’t registered in nyc.
Don Porche' says
New Jersey too
G.M.Konetz says
Federal regulations say no guns in commercial vehicle
Russell Birch says
Federal Regs do NOT say that.
ArmyVet says
That’s a lie. Go away.
Mike says
Stop crying n whining like a little teenage know it all that complains. You ain’t the law shut up like you are. Just mind own business n do your own.
Go 2nd Amendment says
WRONG!!! There is NO Federal regulating the transportation of firearms in CMV’s. It is strictly state regulated. Result: have your ducks in order before you enter certain states with firearms on board. Some states are stricter than others. New York, New Jersey and many New England states do not allow firearms to be brought into the state without proper permits. It’s a healthy fine and jail time.
But on a Federal level, there is no law, regulation, or ordinance governing transportation of firearms in CMV’s.
mousekiller says
Go slap the crap out of the person that told you it was federal regs that prevented you from carrying. No such reg … .There is a bill that is being talked about on the hill ( DC) that is to give CDL holders a permit to carry good in all states. If the driver meets all the requirements of concealed carry.Contact your reps and demand it.
Deacon Blue says
Ur exactly right. There currently are no laws that prohibit firearms in cmv’s. However each state has it’s own scope of gun laws. That being said, better familiarize urself with each jurisdictional protocols cuz I think there’s a few states that would require ya to transport both the gun and the bullets separately and out of direct access from the forward cab.
Straight up sissy states full of bleeding heart liberal jellyfish.
Billy bob says
You need to show us the reg. It doesn’t exist
Kevin P Barakauskas says
Really? Copy and Paste that imaginary law for everyone to read then🤣🤣🤣
Ryan says
Where does it state that?
C. Gruesbeck says
Wrong, old wives tale.
Don Porche' says
Show me where it’s stated in the FMCA guidelines book
Rebecca Holtorf says
.Not true.
Maus says
Some states and jurisdiction you can’t
Inanyminet says
If it’s a lie, offer proof otherwise.
Douglas Hinckley says
There are no federal laws prohibiting drivers from carrying a weapon. You must be legally able to carry from your state and you must obey each state’s laws when transiting through that state. Of course don’t even think of getting on a federal reservation with a weapon. Other than that it’s up to the company you work for and whatever policies they have.
Rebecca Holtorf says
You are correct but in addition to your comment each installation has an armory, just be ready for a long delay and red tape. I do DOD all the time so I just leave my attitude adjusters at home and let my husband walk in front of me and carry a big stick. Lol
KATHY says
While ypu might be Licensed to Carry in your ‘Home’ state…are you legal with it in all OTHER STATES? Never was sure about this one– (7 yr OTR/48 solo Driver).
Brian says
Several years back I took time to call the AG’s in the states I routinely ran to ask that.i did have a ccw,but I was wondering about legality in a cmv.the simple answer was that regardless of ccw,as long as the firearm was not accessible from the driver’s seat or was in the living area you can carry.Ny and nj u fall back on federal law where it has to be unloaded and locked in a compartment(trunk,sidebox,etc)for transport.
Sid says
Locked and unloaded in the side box. Might as well carry a ball bat. Lol
Paul says
No you are not legal in all states, most have thier own regulations on concealed carry. No the laws and regulations of the states you will be in most often, and always let law enforcement officers know if a gun is present.
2nd Ammendment advocate.
Phuk Lee says
Having a gun and carrying a gun are two different things. (still getting training, not licensed yet).
Paul says
There is an app for that
Billy Moreland says
No if the state you are in doesn’t have a reciprocal agreement with you home state then you are in violation and it could cause you to loose your CCP.
jd tomblin says
Thats right , tell these dummies again…every state has their own and like i said before pull into a scale or even get pulled over and tell them you have a gun in a commerical vehicle then see what happens…i didn’t even have one but some punk in Marianna said i did and i had six officer’s searching me and my truck while i stood by in a set of handcuffs…you people think you have rights…ha
Joseph Rister says
You would have to have several permits for the states you travel or it’s a concealed weapon
Pat says
Get YourStateGunLaws.com. They also have an app. I carry and use this to keep up on each state conceal carry laws
Dave says
Check with your state. Alabama permits work in 27 other states.
Rebecca Holtorf says
Google state reciprocal gun laws. You can also apply for permits in states that will work where your resident state may not. In addition you would have to apply for special permits in cities like Chicago and NY, NY. It’s a learning process and can be costly but with a clean record you can be leagal in most of the country. In addition to just having a permits, each state can have different rules which regulate how the weapon can be stored or carried.
Bubba gump says
You clowns saying you can legally carry a firearm in your truck are so wrong. Let see you get caught with a gun in your truck California. Bye bye for 10 years. Yes some state you may carry if you have a cop in that state and compliant with their laws but in most states it is a felony.
Bubba gump says
CCP, not cop.
Recon65 says
A Florida highway patrol officer
Jim says
The same person that said life is fair. The only thing it says is it can’t be in reach of the driver while driving.
Chris says
Whoever told you that we couldn’t carry is a huge liar.
Josh says
While it’s not a federal regulation, various state laws and company policies can prohibit the carrying of a firearm.
If you’re knowingly taking up two spaces and refuse to move, you deserve to lose a mirror, though.
If you’re going to park like you don’t have mirrors and then be a sick about it, at least the bad parking will be justified.
Shannon says
What if the truck taking up 2 spaces was a oversized load that was big enough to take up 2 spaces you can judge unless you know the facts
C W says
You try n break my window or mirror and see what happens, it wont be county jail for you it would county morgue! You dont confront z driver that way. You steering wheel holders have no Clue!!!
Charles says
You know it’s guys like you that’s the reason why truckers don’t help each other anymore companies are hurting so they’re hiring people that don’t know a damn thing about cars let alone semi trucks which makes more ignorant guys like you yeah that situation could have been handled better and avoided but you definitely sound like a trouble-making dude which will get his day one day
Frank W says
But what makes it right to take up two spaces
John Hickman says
Only a damn fool will take 2 parking spaces an the idiot should have a big ticket for it deserved to be woke up until he moves the truck thing is truckers dont respect themselves or anybody else sorry character no morals an you guys wonder why this country going down hill
Mark Reed says
This is very true,when I started driving ( 1994) drivers respected each other.Drivers didn’t park in 2 spots unless it was an oversized and then dumb asses didn’t wake other drivers up either.Stupid steering wheel holders will never understand .RESPECT,COURTESY, RESPONSIBILITY!!?
Scott says
Wow, you’re really tough.
Donald T. Champ says
I read your comment 2 days ago and i am still shacking
That guy says
If you’re oversized you could end up taking a lot more then 2 spots
Kim Morris says
I’m sure the driver from Michigan would have known if it had been an oversized load and acted accordingly,well in a perfect world anyway!!
Big sexy says
This guy clearly doesn’t know what he’s talking about. You can’t be ticketed on private property. Lol. Did you know you can drive a car without a drivers license if you’re on private property ( like a race track for example or on your property ). Second, what if he’s holding a space for another driver. I back up and drop trailer in Denver all the time and bobtail into a spot waiting for my wife. What if just got it in there when backing up, then broke down before he could do a pull out to straighten it out and he’s waiting for a tow or mechanic? What if he was parked in between the yellow lines but you could barely see it due to poor paint quality but it was the driver next to him parked improperly. I could think of dozens and dozens of possibilities. But the fact remains this driver woke up another driver while on sleeper birth with a gun and threats ( Google CAN THE POLICE WAKE ME UP ON SLEEPER BIRTH and Google TEXAS DRIVERS SUE OVER BEING WOKEN UP ON SLEEPER BIRTH ).
Jeff says
Thinking along the same lines. Parking next to an oversized truck that left the truck stop while the guy beside him taking up two spots was still sleeping. Not a good idea to go beating and banging on someone else’s truck when you don’t know them. Situation could’ve been a lot worse.
jd tomblin says
I have hauled oversize and it is poor trip planning for anyone to take up two spaces or more…and i am old school started for overnite in 1967 , that’s 51 years ago for you who can’t even add…by the way , only a rookie steering wheel holder park’s his bobtail in a space for truck and trailer…i have always found a place to park when bobtailing but like the man said it’s a ” ME” world we live in today.
art says
Hopefully the driver taking up 2 spaces has been jailed.
Christina says
I disagree. When you haul oversize loads, more often than not, you NEED to take up 2 spots. Shouldn’t lose a mirror because of that
On the flip side, first come first served applies. If someone wants to take 2 spots, then they can. Not saying it’s right, but they can.
jd tomblin says
That’s BS!
Rebecca Holtorf says
Google state reciprocal gun laws. You can also apply for permits in states that will work where your resident state may not. In addition you would have to apply for special permits in cities like Chicago and NY, NY. It’s a learning process and can be costly but with a clean record you can be leagal in most of the country. In addition to just having a permits, each state can have different rules which regulate how the weapon can be stored or carried.
David says
Perhaps if Cozzie had knocked on the other drivers door and said, sorry to bother you sir, would you please move over so I have a place to park? Things might have turned out different.
You figure that’s how the conversation went? I’m thinking more like. Bam! Bam! Bam! Bam! (Minimum 4 Bams!). How many fkn spaces do you need shthd?
Sound about right?
Rick"Lefty"Davis says
I’ve woke up drivers to ask them to move,but like David said I’ve been polite.
mog says
yep lol
Randall Tate says
Lol yes sir ! That’s about right ! I’ve been woken up by drivers being apologetic and that goes a long way with helping out or just moving up a few feet or whatever. Getting woke by someone who’s rude and obnoxious would just piss me off !
Bernard Watson says
Yup..that’s probably how it went..I’ve had several incidents similar to that where drivers are confrontational and you tend to say you know what “screw you idiot “..
Anthony Richard Conwell says
Lol I’m thinking that you’re right
Runaway says
Probably the way it went.
Rebecca Holtorf says
Agree… and definitely 4 bams!
PAUL PEREZ says
I disagree if you were taking up two parking spots on private property. It is up to the owner of the private property to make sure that any parking rules are enforced. Intentionally destroying somebody’s property over a parking spot is not only childish it is a crime
Brenda says
No we
Weapons aloud in a commercial truck its listed in your green book look it up driver
Kim says
I drove for 29 years and always thought that it was illegal to carry a pistol in a commercial vehicle. But a shotgun was alright seems like I remember something like had to be unloaded if the truck was in motion. Maybe not ,the old memory is not what it used to be
Cindy Mylott says
Bull. We have had dot tell us we were crazy for not carrying!
cremater says
Umm…how bout you post the section at least? I mean I would look it up but my green book is buried under all my weapons.
Rebecca Holtorf says
Lmao
Ryan says
That’s right look it up, dont just assume. They are in fact allowed in cmv’s, it states in that “green book” it’s up to your companies discretion to be able to carry one.
jd tomblin says
Why not tell what section that’s in since you know .
Don Porche' says
What page Brenda
Sara says
I know your right driver
Trent says
you can carry a gun its old wifes tail company owners
used tell drivers it wasnt legal to carry them in there
trucks. thats because they didnt want you to carry or there ins company didnt want it but it legal to carry as long as you have all your permits
Jason says
When I took my CDL written test 21 years ago it clearly stated that it is a federal law that prohibits you from carrying a firearm in a commercial vehicle. And it has been a issue for years because some states say it is ok to carry a firearm in a commercial vehicle and some states say you can only carry if you have a ccw permit and some states it’s against the law to carry a gun at all in a commercial vehicle and the federal law says you can’t either.
David says
The type of vehicle has nothing to do with gun laws.
Mason says
Unless you live in your truck then it’s your constitutional right. For most drivers the commercial vehicle is their part time or full time home. Only conflict will be company policy. But that won’t matter if you’re an owner operator and run under your authority.
TruckerBuck says
F.O.S.
Runaway says
True that. Dudes always spouting opinions as truth.
Medicineman says
You are a liar.
I have had commercial license since before we changed over to “CDL”, and that was NEVER in the test or FMCSR.
The ONLY place firearms are refrrenced is in the HazMat section, and that states you cannot carry LOADED firearms as “cargo”. (the load)
FMCSA has answered this guestion on their website ad-Nauseum. And illiterate morons who keep on perpetuating the lie that guns in trucks are illegal gets really tiring.
BTW – screw what “company policy” says. That is not the law.
jd tomblin says
That’s a fact . i was a trainer in 1992 when the CDL was instituted and we turned in our ” Driving Ms Daisy ” licence …anyone know what that means lol. Actually a few got theirs in 1991 .
Rebecca Holtorf says
This may be a fact as you remember it but there is no federal gun law other than the constitution which clearly states the federal government can not infringe on our rights to carry.
David says
The “steering wheel holder” is the idiot that takes up 2 spaces with 1 truck and THEN has the audacity to refuse to do the right thing!!
Ron says
Maybe…..driver pulled into a spot next to a wide load. Wide load leaves and now he is an a-hole for taking up 2 spots. I wasn’t there and neither were you. But banging on a door had better be the last thing you do. It ain’t his fault you can’t find a place to park. Better trip planning, maybe???
Trisg says
I think that’s a company rule. My husband once agreed to a truck search and they came across a gun and also a six pack of beer. He explained he only got home maybe once every 4 months and he had the beer left from when he had spent the weekend in his truck. He also had all the other things he needed, TV, microwave, food, clothing etc. He merely explained he actually lived in his truck and often times would have to do his restart in some shady places and the gun was for his protection. The officers told him by the truck actually being his main home he was entitled to protect it.
jd tomblin says
No young lady , in some states you don’t even have a right to protect your home…besides no cop will except a truck being a legal residence , nor will a judge in any court.
Jake Allman says
There is no Federal law banning weapons in a Semi Tractor.
Terry Schlegel says
Does your head hurt when you think? 2nd ammendment says we have the right to bear arms! Doesn’t say unless your driving a truck… geez
jd tomblin says
You are so lame, the rich controls the constitution now, it will sopn be a thing of the past and rights , ha ha ha…
Charles says
Yeah I thought the same thing we weren’t allowed to carry
Guy says
Only in New York you can not carry or if your company says you can not. BE SAFE!
Charles says
There is nothing in the FMCSA that says we cannot carry. It is company policy. Due to the conceql carry repocity rules, most companies will jot let you carry since many of the states where the buggest cities are do not participate in the 35 state agreement.
Michael Murphy says
It is not illegal to carry a firearm in a commercial vehicle As long as you obey state law and can legally own one. You’re company may not want you to carry but that’s between you and them. I still have my 2nd Amendment rights.
Chopper says
No law against truckers carrying specifically, as long as they are legal otherwise. The issue you need to be careful of is that state laws vary widely, especially concerning carrying in a vehicle. You may be perfectly legal in your home state, but midweek cross into a liberal state that considers an out of sight firearm in a vehicle to be a concealed carry weapon, and presto, you’re committing a felony. I do carry in my truck, but understand that if I am caught with it in certain states, it will be considered illegal despite my CCW permits, etc. I justify the risk to myself because the only way anyone will ever know that I have a weapon is if I am forced to use it, which carries me over to the “better judges by 12 than carried by 6” mantra of my law enforcement days.
Markealy says
You can carry if company allows it and the state your in allows it
Lloyd Smith says
No law against it. You can’t carry across state lines in some cases. Compies day you can’t carry a gun, not the law
Jim says
You’re absolutely right! I was under the impression you couldn’t carry a firearm in a commercial vehicle
gail morra says
Get the facts! Dont assume!
Todd says
There is no Federal statute that says you cannot carry a gun. State statutes and company guidelines deter drivers from carrying a weapon. I only drive in those states that allow me to carry.
David Zeits says
It is not illegal to carry in your truck federally u must be aware of the laws in the states you travel
Timothy Green says
There is no law that says we can’t carry firearms in the truck. We just gave to obey the local/state laws. Which can be conflicting.
Quintana says
It’s not against the law for truckers to carry guns as long as they have a license to carry that gun. the trucking companies make rules that they don’t want you to carry a gun but they can’t really stop you as long as your license permits you in the state you’re in . your good
Mike says
No law against it. Just have to follow every jurisdictions laws that u enter. Companies will often just say it’s illegal so they don’t have to deal with it
Ali says
Yes you can carry gun , but check each state laws and which does not allow it first, and your company policy , majority don’t allow it.
Jimmy says
There is no law against legally carrying a firearm. Most companies have policies about guns as do most shippers and receivers. State laws vary and you should make yourself aware of the laws of any state you are traveling in.
Terri says
Company policies may prohibit guns, but if properly licensed, it is not illegal to have a gun in your truck.
Wendall Barnes says
There is no federal law saying you can’t carry a gun in your truck. It’s up to the individual state.
Casanova601 says
Sure we can carry unless you’re a company driver. That also includes lease purchase. if your company says it’s cool or doesn’t specify it then yes you can if its legal for all states you run. Been out here for 20 years but never have carried but i know many that do.
Bo mcbratnie says
There is no federal law or any other law that says you cannot carry a firearm in a commercial vehicle. That is a urban myth as long as you adhere to the local and state laws for gun possession you can have one in a commercial vehicle
ArmyVet says
You thought wrong. There is no such law.
James says
Theres no federal law that says you cant carry a gun in your truck..It depends on your company policy and you can have the clip and gun separated
James says
I meant you have to keep clip and gun separated
Susie says
You’re not supposed to have any fire arm’s aboard a truck
PAUL PEREZ says
You have been misinformed there is no federal law that says you cannot carry a firearm in a commercial vehicle. However you do have to follow your company rules as well as every State’s law. a concealed weapons permit will allow you to carry in certain States. As well as your own.
Richard L Waldrop says
It’s not the law, it is completely company policy, although there are some states that a hand gun is an automatic prison sentence
RALPH says
Nothing states that we can not carry a firearm. It’s usually company policy due to insurance reasons. As long as you have a concealed carry permit and are up to date on what states acknowledge your states ccw. There is no federal law stating we can’t carry.
J says
I recently spoke with an Iowa state trooper. He said there are no laws that prohibit a commercial driver from possessing a firearm. Must have a permit and it’s wise to know the states laws that you are driving in.
gail morra says
Who said drivers cant carry a gun? Who told you that?
Allan Bradburn says
You thought wrong that’s why. There isn’t any federal law against commercial drivers carrying a gun. Nor can there be. Even truckers are covered by the Constitution.
Steve says
There is no law on the books that states you can’t have a gun in a commercial vehicle..if you have a chl it must be in reciprocity with the other states your in…not being allowed to have one in the truck is simply company discretion..I run Texas, Arkansas and Tennessee wit a Texas handgun license and its in compliance with the other 2 states..even talked to troopers about and they had no problem with it…
Michael D Mcqueen says
There is no regulations against carrying a gun. It is probably against your company rules and you have to abide by the local and state law but if you have a permit you are ok in most cases
Rebecca Holtorf says
Guns are not allowed per a specific company’s rules. The DOT does not prohibit guns as long as you are legal under each states regulations.
Greg says
There is no law againt carrying in a CMV as long as you are legal to carry in the state you are in, as long as your carrier allows it. Most states allow carry in a vehicle without a permit as well, FL being one of them.
gail morra says
You need to protect yourself out here it’s getting weird.
Dennis says
No warning shot.your in my truck your dead.
Julian Luckett says
LOL!!!!
Terri says
Amen.
Rebecca Holtorf says
The first thing I thought was the aggressive driver picked the right truck. Most armed drivers would have aimed before firing. Just saying
BSC says
I’m gone have mine on me 4 protection…that’s a company policy most times…
Joe says
There is no federal law against carrying a firearm. How do I know? I called and asked years ago.
William C Smith says
Aren’t guns regulated by the state not the feds ?
Guy says
WRONG!!
Matthew says
What real truck driver doesn’t cross state lines . So no you can’t carry ! Unless your just a local runner.. let Virginia catch you with a gun then tell me it’s not illegal.
James says
Illinois doesnt recognize other states permits but as long as its not loaded and clip is separated and not within reach of drivers seat, they wont bother you
PAUL PEREZ says
I carry in Virginia all the time my permit allows me to carry in Virginia
OSCAR RATLEY says
Its amazing that truckers today are so weak that they have to pull a gun on each other,,,,, smh,, animal behavior,,,
David says
It’s amazing truckers are so weak, they can’t get along period.
Ali says
Sadly
Codi says
Not surprising to hear coming out of Florida. Truck parking is very limited there
Mike says
No it’s not. There’s plenty of spots in the state. They might not be the big name truck stops. But I never have trouble anywhere in the state
MEL says
IF YOU ARE ALLOWED TO CARRY YOUR WIFE. AND SPECIALLY YOUR MOTHER IN LAW. WHY NOT YOUR GUN ?? ARE WE IN A FREE COUNTRY OR NOT ??
David says
My mother in law? That’s just fkn cruel man.
Michael says
Good one !
Dave B says
Many Shippers and Receivers have “NO WEAPONS” policies while on their facilities! By agreeing to operate on their facility, you are agreeing to their random vehicle search policy. Unauthorized WEAPONS on a Government, or Federal facility is a federal offense.
Mike says
😂😂😂
Ali says
Not in there parking lot.
30.06. & 30.07 meant to be inside building not parking lot , and that’s to Carry too.
Keith says
Hey bear in mind that you have to have a carry permit from your state in order for it to be LEGAL across certain state lines. But yeah anybody can carry. Lolo
QUINTIN CARTER says
So u can carry a gun over the road?
David says
If you work for a company that does not allow weapons then you can not have them in your truck or you will be fired. How ever as Joe pointed out you are legally allowed to have a weapon in your truck. The reason there is no law prohibition of weapons is it would violate your 2nd amendment rights , the right to bear arms.
Tom says
Sorry, but NO company policy will ever prevent me from defending myself.
R.J. says
I carry a large 14″ (blade) butcher knife. I explained to the Canadian Customs folks, while being searched, that it was used for making peanut butter sandwiches and cutting them in half.
No problem….Everyone’s gotta eat ! ! !
However, even though I’m a trucker, only an idiot takes a knife to a gun fight…Move the truck. No consideration any more.
Jake Allman says
Same here. Good statement.
Jerry says
He could have avoided this by simply calling the TA management or calling the local police…..not to mention to bet he had a bad attitude I asking the driver to move over so he could fit his truck in the space. He deserves to get arrested and go to jail. Get some common sense and social skills, geeze!
Coleman Mannheim says
I’d bet that was the core problem with this story, how Mr Cozzie approached him. Then again since their are no pictures we have to go by what’s written, it probably wasn’t much that made the difference and Cozzie just couldn’t get in the spot.
R.J. says
Sometimes there’s good reason to take up more then one spot.
xxxxx Transport, which hires new graduates… had a new driver
back in a tight spot, right next to a flatbed truck.
The over-wide piece of thick steel plate on the flatbed opened up that dry van from one end to the other.
TexasJester says
Which is why, when I’m carrying a wide load that’s not readily obvious, I put out cones to mark the load!
Not too long ago, two of us with the same company were hauling 12′ wide loads. We took up 3 spots together, instead of each taking up 2 spots, and no one complained.
John Hickman says
Sorry dude but there alot of driver like that fool who took 2 parking space since he was asleep the guy should back into his hood an left
gail morra says
You need to protect yourself out here it’s getting weird. I agree he could of handled it better. Still I dont know why a driver takes up 2 spaces thats pure laziness.
Ali says
It all depends on the state that issues your carry permit and how many other states honor that states permit, it’s a little tough as a trucker since we go through so many different states with so many different laws of their own compared to someone who just stays in one area mostly, with that said, it’s not illegal but let me ask, how many times did you go to a shipper or receiver that has a clear sign “NO WEOPONS ALLOWED ON PREMISES” what would you do with your gun then?
Mike says
Every single one of them. That’s how many.
Kevin says
I carry in my truck. Key word MY not a company . As most companies have rules against fire arms in any company vehicle.
S.texidor says
Even if it’s your truck and you’re pleased to a carrier that says no..then it no
Kelly says
If the SOB was taking up 2 spots and there was no reason for it he deserved to be shot ! It’s another case where the guilty goes free and the innocent goes to jail.
Tex says
Yeah…..bad parking is most DEFINITELY a reason to shoot someone. You’re a special kinda stupid!
Jerry says
What if it was a oversized load; it doesn’t say so without knowing we can’t judge on the ethics.
Charles A Roberts says
Really????thats so ignorant
Barry Randall says
That was an incredibly stupid thing to say.
Trish says
The guilty went to jail. The other driver was a jerk but when the other driver busted his window out, the other driver felt threatened. The guilty went to jail. Sadly there’s no law about being a real dick
Mikey says
I take up 2 spots all the time since pos old trucks with vavle spitting all. Ight long always park next to me. Honestly id love to get into an altercation like this. Truckers are dicks
Break into my truck your dead ill feel better too one less ahole off the road.
Coleman Mannheim says
So you’d seriously jepordise your life, career, and family over a 12’x70′ space that doesn’t even belong to you?
Umbrellaman says
Oh man… That is so true. Hopefully in about 20 more years, the image of a professional truck driver will be drastically improved but, for now we just have to let that old generation fade away. The X-Generation is coming. Yahoo,!
R.J. says
I was OUT of hours at the Love’s on I-76 outside Denver.
Having just purchase $ worth of fuel, I went looking for a spot.
Several RV’s were parked out there.
I explained to the manager that the RV’s can park anywhere.
I was out of hours and could not. And having purchased $ worth of fuel….
The manager went out and told them to move.
I had my spot and no one need be shot.
Simple.
John Hickman says
Not all truckstop managers will do that you luck out
Tom says
If you think idiots in trucks that park wrong deserve to be shot then you should seek a mental health professional. Guns have 2 purposes, hunting and protection. Shooting an idiot doesn’t fall under either. If it was o.k. to shoot idiots behind the wheel, then most of the northeast would be a ghost town.
Eazy says
It’s not even worth it now days park somewhere else or at least be nice about it
Big sexy says
There’s no DOT regulation about guns and trucks. Call up any sort of entry and they’ll tell you the same thing. I have my ATF card so I have a fully automatica glock and a fully automatic AK-47 in my truck ( see you tube videos on fully automatic to learn how to legally own one ). What it boils down to is the state. I heard hollow points are a crime in New Jersey. And AR-15’s not equipped with certain features are prohibited in California. So to the average driver, keep your gun unloaded. Magazine separate from the gun. And it’s best if it’s not within your reach, and you’ll be just fine. I recommend getting a concealed weapons permit because a lot states do the ” cross over “. And for you company drivers that are told by your company to not carry gun, I’d ignore that crap. Unless your company has a camera aimed at you, how will your company know what you do or do not have in your backpack? And the only way your company will know is if you tell someone and they snitch you off. Or you had to use it. In other words, your company will only know that you had a gun if you had to choose between living or dying.
Joseph Rash says
That’s what trucking coming to we suppose to fight together new generation I’m a owner operator 20 years yes I carry 45 butt comes with responsibility
Trish says
I started driving back in 1981 things have changed for the worst for sure. I wouldn’t drive again for anything. On a recent trip in my car down to Dallas ,a Hobby Lobby truck was jumping lanes back and forth and nearly caused a wreck more than once. Drivers now days think that load is so important that some don’t care who they might kill.
Bill says
You can carry if the property owner allows, or the state. Take New York, if you are caught it is automatically 1 year, I got that from ny state police. But most companies,shippers, and receivers have large signs at the entrance gates stating no weapons. It does not matter if you are permitted or not. You pay the consequences if caught. You take the risk. I have been otr for 36 years and have seen the need only 1 time. Not worth the head ach to me
Mike says
Only thing those shoppers receivers can do if found is ask you to leave if you refuse to leave then the police can charge you with a trespass
Tim Mullins says
I hope cozzie does hard time. He shouldn’t have acted like that. Also take his gun and CDL.
Paddlewagon says
Company driver……I carry……ALWAYS!!!……just a few too many “characters” out there.
Deaconblues62 says
Looks like the old western days are back.
This is why I rather run all night and park during the day, Preferably in a nice quiet 🤫 Reserved Parking Space that I like!!
I love it, the best thing they ever started, this is privacy I don’t mind paying for!
Mikey says
You have to in miami
Dez nuts says
An idiot that doesn’t have to worry about another idiot trying to shoot his brains out since most wouldn’t want to pay anyway.
Guy says
The kind that cares for HIS TRUCK….AND WE ARE NOT IDIOTS….SO GO KICK SAND!!
TexasJester says
I do. Tuesday night, I paid for a spot at the Wheat Ridge (Denver) T/A, early in the day; when I got there at 2100, my spot was one of the few open. Next night, after a long and heavy trip to Montrose, I needed to be in Commerce City (Denver), so I bought a parking spot there – at 2030, only a handful of 115 paid spots were open, and I was able to park.
I don’t like to spend the money, but I like to know that I have a parking spot where I need it. If the paid parking is full and I have a reservation, I let the clerks know, and they find and chase out the offending driver who took the spot.
Jeffrey says
One that gets reimbursed by their company
Ayisha says
Taking up 2 spots deserves a death sentence??? You need to hang up your keys. If you’ve become that desensitized to think a parking spot is more valuable than human life than you’re a danger to everyone on the road. Time to retire. I don’t want you on the road with me.
Ron says
I’ve been trucking 40 years an so much has changed .the new steering wheel holder doesn’t have a clue about trucking .their idiots
Joseph says
The driver that took up two spaces knew he took up two spaces and just didn’t want anybody parking close to him he’s the jerk and all this
Charles says
Wait. One, drivers can legally carry guns in CMVs and didnt make big news? Two, while damaging the “shooters” truck, was over the top…that is primarily why “a-hole”, truckers and non-truckers practice their “a-holeness”, because a gun gives the ability to be so. SMH. The cowardice level in the country is at a generational high.
TexasJester says
Drivers can legally carry, as long as they abide by state and local laws. Many states say you have to have the firearm in one locked box and the ammo and magazine in a separate locked box, neither reachable by the driver while in the driver’s seat – kinda limits the benefit of having it..
If you drive a company truck, check with the company first – many don’t allow it, and you can be fired. Check with state laws – New Jersey, for example, has outlawed hollowpoint ammunition. (People have gone to jail for buying hollowpoints in PA and were going to CT, for example, and were caught with the ammo still in the box with the plastic wrapping still on it, and were jailed.) Be sure you’re legal to possess a weapon.
But truck drivers are not banned by any federal regulations to carry in the truck.
Eric says
Yeah that’s what it sounds like but it carries over into other gun situations where shooting or killing could be avoided if the right to bear arms was not a law when it affects the people who are for it then we will wake up and maybe things will change!
Mike says
The right to bear arms is not a law. It is a god given right and as part of the constitution cannot be taken away
Frederick Douglas says
God given right? not in the King James Bible>
Kevin Mcleod.... says
Drivers today don’t care how they park common courteous no longer exists a driver from large company had a rest area completely blocked off with his curtains closed true professional …..what can u expect lot of drivers on vacation now since flip flops are the latest fad.
Brant Bridges says
Moral of the story use common sense when parking. #2 use Thermos for Coffee not Glass
jeffbrownn@comcast. says
There’s no law on the books that says we can not carry guns. Only a company rule. Not a federal rule.
Robert L says
How could this happen?
The required background checks and gun courses should have prevented this.
I got nothing against being armed but this kind of thing is just more ammo((pun intended) the anti gun people will use against us.
Steve Hughart says
Well the dumb azz driver that took 2 space needs his azz kick if you can’t have a little respect for the other drivers keep your azz out of the truck stop that is our problem now that drivers don’t park in space and park in fire lane they need to start towing them for parking in fire lane
Truckerdena says
However, no one knows what the driver taking two spaces parked next to. It’s a domino effect. If there was a truck taking two spaces when he got there, he parked the best he could. Everything changes all the time.
KING says
It’s this people use guns for the wrong reason but as a truck driver we going to some areas that are unsafe to make deliveries a bat is not going to cut it. I think it’s stupid to pull a gun over a parking space. But if somebody is trying to break in my truck while I’m sleep that’s a totally different story that’s like trying to break into my house while I’m asleep. So be safe out there & do the right thing.
Jay says
He should have had the T/A management call a tow truck to move it.
C. Hic says
Ur All D. A. Newbies!!
Charles says
He could have approached the sleeping trucker a little better than that like the one man commented is it worth your career family and life come on now and another thing that guy should know better than to be taking up two spaces
steven says
People just need to do the right thing, violence lands you in jail, example, I parked at a truck stop in front of another truck, I dont know why but the driver of that truck couldn’t or didn’t know how to back up to go on his way, I was sleeping and heard a banging on my window looked out and no one was there, looked in front of my truck and the driver is sitting in his truck looking at some I backed up so he could leave , case closed, just use your head to avoid any confrontation and your day will be a stress free one.
steven says
People just need to do the right thing, violence lands you in jail, example, I parked at a truck stop in front of another truck, I dont know why but the driver of that truck couldn’t or didn’t know how to back up to go on his way, I was sleeping and heard a banging on my window looked out and no one was there, looked in front of my truck and the driver is sitting in his truck looking at me so I backed up so he could leave , case closed, just use your head to avoid any confrontation and your day will be a stress free one.
Paul Lombardo says
Oh yes got to love the drama fun fun fun in the Sunshine State
Anonymous Trucker says
I never carry in my truck and it’s probably for the best. There has been more then one SOB I might have been willing to go road warrior on out on the road. Trust me, I’m the guy who doesn’t carry because I would ruin it for everyone else.
And Cozzie might have just had a long day when he escalated this. I’m not saying he’s in the right but I can understand.
JC 14897 says
I see this all the time out here. An idiot driver can’t park between the lines and closes his blinds thinking the worlds his. They don’t care on the other drivers only themselves. What should’ve been done is tell the truckstop manager and he can tell the driver to straighten his rig out or leave. The manager has the right to boit him off the property if he so chooses.
Dale says
If the trucker as the story says was unarmed how could he fire a shot into the air ? ? This story doesn’t make any sense at least the way it is written.
Willie Cummings says
Damn near every driver iut here has a GUN this scares me in my sleeper sleeping and rounds fired iff and cone through that damn aluminum cab and injure or even kill me.
Steven R says
Yeah That warning shot had to come down somewhere.
mousekiller says
your chances of having an accident are higher than you getting shot while sleeping.
Instagram: MuthaTrucka69 says
You can carry your gun in YOUR OWNED truck, so long as, you have a concealed weapons permit/License To Carry Firearms(LTCF) permit, from the state that you are currently in OR a you have a permit from different state, that is recognized by the state that you are currently in.
The reason not to carry a firearm, is because some customers do not allow firearms to be carried onto their site, like military base. And they search your truck inside and out so you definitely can’t lie or you’ll be arrested on the spot.
Dale says
Oops read the word wrong. I saw unarmed instead of unnamed so I withdraw my comment. The story does make sense :).
Thomas Mitchell says
Fact of the matter here is respect for others. Things are getting more desperate since the implementation of the eLogs and these types of confrontations are increasing. Sad reality of it is even if someone parks like an idiot there’s nothing you can do about it and that certainly doesn’t make it ok to attack that person. The mutual respect that used to be shared in the trucking industry is almost completely gone and has been replaced with maliciousness and malcontent. Sad days. Those of you who are truckers stay safe out there and never underestimate the stupidity of others and you will have a better chance than most.
Rebecca Holtorf says
Beautifully stated.
Catbirdkirby says
Agreed! That is the management’s duty, to get the offending truck to do right by his/her fellow drivers. It might be more work when dead dog tired, but make sure that your truck is straight and in one spot. Oversized is always, and only, the exception.
Judy says
Oops my mistake , I misread it . The driver inside the truck was the only person that fired a gun. So he should of been arrested for that. So they both should of went to jail . Whose to say that he didnt threaten this guy with his gun , or point the gun at cozzie and threaten him , after he fired a shot in the air? We don’t know , we weren’t there. But I believe theres more to this story on the drivers part that took up 2 parking spots, that hes not admitting to . But again , I dont think legally u can fire shots in city limits. Unless theyve changed that law too . It all could of been avoided by dumbass parking in his own spot . And by the other driver going to as management for help . But like they say , to little , to late .
Phchivo says
Pull his 5th wheel pin less issues, if ges tgat complacent he doesnt need to be out here anyway..
Kerry Cuthbert says
I travel in peace always have always will,,37 years of peace wherever I find a problem that’s where I leave the problem…..no one is gonna trick me off the streets…. pull who fifth wheel pin??? I’ll love to see you pull my pin phchivo you’ll be pulling this time next year!!! I always stretch my tractor out putting tension on the pin you dummy…
L. Harmon says
I had a guy block me e in one night and after he refused to let me out when I asked him to move, a tow truck showed up.
The Ahole moved his truck but still had to pay the tow truck bill.
Management called after they saw I was parked in a legal parking spot.
Simp says
Heck calling managment would be half the trucks in the lot would probably be towed. Some morons just park all over the place. The next morning most of them are still sitting all out in the driving lanes or next to the fuel pumps blocking all kinds of crap. Or these regional idiots that take their 30min break sitting at the fuel pump not getting fuel.
Pulled in with my National Guard unit one night to refuel some of our trucks and found stupid regional drivers parked all over pumps just eating lunch or hanging out inside. They didn’t like out reaction of hooking chains to their truck and dragging them off the pumps.
They say the trucking industry is short handy but you can never find a parking spot at any truck stop or rest area thru the week after 6pm.
Jamie Shinkel says
I allow my drivers to carry. I even offer to pay for the ccw class.
Rebecca Holtorf says
How many job apps did you receive since posting? LoL…:)
Les Daniell says
That’s always been a big issue, idiot drivers that can’t back up straight end up taking two spots and they don’t even care, it may be okay in the country they came from but in the US it’s a very big issue
BlackDynamite says
Why not knock on the guys doors politely ask, “hey driver, I’m sorry to disturb ya, but would you mind scooting over a bit so I can park. I’m mighty tired and truly appreciate it”
Way to many Drivers approach situations with an attitude.
Chris L Deaven says
Sleeping driver fired into the air don’t they mean into his sleeper birth roof ? I can’t imagine he got outside the truck if the guy was crawling into his broken window on the driver side
Phillip Cunningham says
Shoot I carry but I call the proper authority for situations like that some people you can’t talk sense into them.they think the world evolves around them and they either mad at the world or just looking for trouble.and two wrongs don’t make a right.
Thor Odenson says
I’ve said it before
If you feel the need to carry a gun while hauling freight for what ever perception or reasoning
You shouldn’t be hauling freight
You should be at home chewing on hot meds
And I support the 2nd
I don’t support truckers turning truck stops into shooting galleries
Inanyminet says
I have been out here since 1980 and never had to carry. I have been to some places many drivers would never go into at 2 or 3am. The key is eyes and ears open and be aware of your surroundings.
Rebecca Holtorf says
You support the 2nd but don’t feel people are justified to want to be able to protect themselves? Have you not read articles about drivers being attacked, female drivers raped, and an over all high crime rate of the areas that we have to go into on a daily basis?
Buck says
I’m telling you it’s all about those fog lamps blinding everybody they’re starting to lose their mind shut them off
Lawrence Fessler says
the driver probably could not back so he used up 2 parking spaces which is ignorant off him too do so Why couldn’t he move his truck or park in the space right in the first place probably cause he was too damm lazy too take the time too do it right So many ignorant lazy drivers out there any more blocking people in and parking in the exits too go in and out off the truck stops too
Joseph says
Problem easily solved..just slash the trucks tires thatbis taking up 2 spaces while he ignores you..and I mean as many of the18 you can get..
Shawn Baker says
Under fed regulations you can’t have a gun in a commercial vehicle however most states will allow it if it is registered. You can even pickup and deliver on bases but you have to turn in your fire arm. Even most dot will allow you to carry. Some would want the the driver to have the fire arm in the sleeper while he or she is driving. It’s a gray area.
Medicineman says
No gray areas at all.
Gun in CMV is 100% LEGAL.
FMCSA has answered this about a million times.
Stop spreading lies and ignorance.
IrreverentCrawfish says
There’s no reason for everyone on here to be jumping down the driver’s throat for taking up two spaces. For all we know, he was hauling oversize and the load was too wide for one space. Cozzie, on the other hand, was way out of line. I don’t blame the other driver for pulling a gun and firing a warning shot. My truck is my home, and anyone who’s smashing a window to break in is a threat.
big shot says
I think driver was looking for a fight I think he intention park in two spots to lure a willing trucker to use his gun he should be charged with firing a weapon in a public area also
Ron says
This is why I’m so happy that my company puts us up in hotels every night. Whoever it was that said the guys deserved to get shot for taking up two spaces is a damn fool, that’s the kind of thinking that has people wanting to take our guns.
William R Hodges says
Was the truck in the two parking spaces have a oversize load? If so, I would take up two spots depending on its size.
Eatshit says
Does anybody know if you slash a truck tire not all the way through where it’s leaking air how long or how many miles would it take for the sidewall to blow out
Don says
If you can’t maneuver your truck into a parking spot the way it should be you should not be driving anyway. Must have been a Swift Driver
L paredes says
Maybe next time he take 1 space
Jim says
Keep carrying a gun in truck but be careful where you go. Trust me, I ended up in jail on a random check in N.J.
Defindme says
I just wanna say that selfish driver to lazy to park like a real driver that doesn’t want to move I would tell him to go back to bed when he wakes up all his tires will be slashed then now he has a reason not to move simple and easy like I wasn’t even there almost like those idiots that do there 30 min. In the fuel line
Gina says
Let me ask you this. How do you know he didn’t park that way because of another driver. Maybe the truck next to him at the time was parked wrong. Granted, if the man would have explained the situation nicely, he may have move the truck over. No one is gonna respond well to an angry person. Learn some etiquacy.There is just to much violence. I have not been driving long, and I really enjoy it. One thing I have noticed is other drivers like messing with other drivers. I have more problems with other trucks than 4 wheelers. We are all out here trying to make money. We should have each other’s backs. One problem is a shortage of parking spaces. There are more and more trucks on the road every day. Be productive and call your representative about states providing more parking spaces for truckers. After all, its their laws we are following. I have meet some really nice truckers, and I would like to thank those ones who have helped me to back in some really tight spots. I ask that you have patients with these new drivers who are learning, and not to forget that you were there once.
Bob says
Yeah there are some idiot “foreign” abd Anerican drivers out there…
About 10 years ago a russian sounding driver was blocking all the Speedco lanes in Dallas trying to cherry pick for the next open spot.
I got around him and he got in my face as if he wanted to fight. I did what many of you suggested and went in to speak to the manager who did or said nothing.
On the way back to our trucks he spit at me then quickly went for his waistband like he had a gun….
Even before thinking, I was on his ass scuffling all over that concrete lot.
Thinking about it later, I quickly rationalized (incorrectly) that drivers can’t carry a gun is probably the reason I ignored his jesture and jumped his ass.
Bad choice today…even back then cuz he could have had a knife in his wasteband.
Recently at the Pilot in Phoenix a driver was having a hard time getting in a spot…as I was spotting I realized the problem was a flatbed on the end was about 5 feet out of his whole, so I knocked in his door and walked back to the back of his spot telling him I would guide him back…
Instead, he got out the truck and got in my face cusing me for knocking on his m/f door…
Knowing how edgy these new drivers are I walked off pointing out where he already had his frontend ripped off before for parking OUT on the end…
Even still he got in his truck and then walked across the lot to get back in my face, talking about I don’t know who he is…
I quickly figured since he put on a shirt before coming trying to get me to keep on talking smack..he probably either got his gun or a knife…so I just walked off.
Be safe!
Kenneth Cunningham says
It’s a federal crime to have a firearm and alcohol in a commercial truck!! How did they let this guy make it?
Kenneth Cunningham says
I take that lie that I just posted back it is legal to carry firearm in commercial vehicle!
Pink Trucker says
Carrying a gun beats getting the shhhht beat out of you and robbed the hell out of after you just drove ( X) amount of hours and tired as hell!! No one needs jerks to make our lives worse! So screw them….Every bad deed gets a consequence!! Life is survival now-a- days man!!
H.Dayton says
It’s based upon each company one company my husband work for he was allowed to carry the company currently works for is not allowed to carry
Julie Bellamy says
All because some butthole wanted to take two parking spots… just knowing how hard it is to find parking to sleep, the un named man should have moved his eff’en truck!
Two parking spots!? How many times have i seen that!?
#stupid
Jennifer Neumann says
Seems like no one thought maybe the driver that is in two spots was caused buy others parking over the line. Secondly it was touched on ones attidude when asking to have his truck moved. Lastly why question carrying a weapon? Just do it as no other person LEO’s included have no stake, care, value in YOUR life over thiers so yes your security is in your hands and yours only… I know that may offened libtards and the pussy ass snoqflakes but reality is what it is. Lock and load keep the rubber side down shinny side up and the pedle to the floor… God bless the truckers… JKN
Kerry Cuthbert says
I travel in peace always have always will,,37 years of peace wherever I find a problem that’s where I leave the problem…..no one is gonna trick me off the streets….
Patrick Bailey says
FINALLY! The right one was finally taken into custody! Notice that the one who fired the warning shot WAS THE VICTIM , & not the PERP!!!!! Perfect example of why RESPONSIBLE Truckers should be allowed to carry guns!!!!!
Jeffrey Eakman says
Park cautiously, ask first. Problems, call their Company. As far as hand guns. Follow Company policy first, State laws and ordnance. Conceal and carry or open carry if allowed. Or, refer too the following articles.
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Ronald Hulse says
I have been driving OTR for quite a while, trust me, I would rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it. Listen up my fellow drivers, there is an army of bad guys coming up from south of the border and they are mixed in with the good the bad and the ugly, your life is worth more than a job.
LT says
***** WAKE UP DRIVERS ***** THERE US NO FEDERAL LAW AGAINST GUNS IN TRUCKS..JUST REMEMBER,, YOUR COMPANY RULES ARE NOT GONNA SAVE YOUR LIFE IF YOU GET IN A LIFE OR DEATH SITUATION ..THE CRIMINALS ARE GONNA HAVE THEIRS..JUST MAKE SURE YOU ARE LEGAL IN JURISDICTIONS YOU ARE RUNNING IN..OF COURSE BEING A LAW ABIDING CITIZEN AND A CONCEAL CARRY GOES IN YOUR FAVOR..HAD YOU RATHER BE TRIED BY 12 OR CARRIED BY 6…LET NO ONE BABY SIT YOU..(JUST SAYING)…
Ron svetlick says
What’s more important that job or.your life? Got a permit carry it.regardless of.company policy
duh says
Thank goodness we have so many lawyers in here!
Mike T. says
You guys sound like a bunch of babies.
I drove over 44 years , 4.9 million miles accident free , y’all are talking like fools .
Take some pride, drive right.
Mike T.
Gary says
Just two days ago my truck stalled in a pilot parking lot jax fl ending up holding more than two spots , pilot manger gave me hours to straighten it or they call a wreckerin,,I was near my truck explaining the situation to other drivers , IT IS ALL HOW YOU HANDLE IT !!!!
Dirty bobby says
Judged by 12 or carried by 6 you decide
Dan H. says
You can conceal & carry If you have a conceal and carry licencens but like some others have already stated, it may be against your company’s policy or against the state you are in. There is no one law covering all 50 states right now, you have to go by the law of the state you are traveling in at the time. Mike’s Law, if ever passed, will allow truckers to carry in all 50 states but it’s a ways off.
Dannyboy68 says
The whole thread of comments is about whether or not you can carry a gun,….. the Catalyst behind the story is that bag of crap took up two parking spaces he should have had that thermos busted over his freaking head! The tragedy here is that one man goes to jail and the other will continue in the future to take up two parking spaces….SMH
Dan H. says
Do what I have done, pepper stream, not a spray and a 1,000,000 watt stunner. I carry both on me, used both once on a 6′-4″ guy and dropped him like a hot potato. If that doesn’t allow you to get away or knock him out, then give up!!!!
Lord ALIVEnnnKICKING says
Let’s keep the guns out of this,if a driver takes up two spots ,don’t wake them up,just put some antifreeze or water in those fuel tanks or antifreeze in the def tanks…,put some nails under those tires…but what I really like to do is,put my lock on there trailer..They hate that…and if u get caught,u might get a ticket,no jail time…Better ways dealing with douchebags..yup peace lol
Lord ALIVEnnnKICKING says
Hey…Airlines airlines and airlines,u know what to do…yup lol
Lord ALIVEnnnKICKING says
Airline locks work well…it’s a tax deduction yup….and no jail time yup lol
Agnew Dellinger says
I retired back in ’07 with 23 years OTR experience. No major accidents and I’m good with the DOT. All the kiddie are grown and my lovely wife passed away back in ’15. I have considered getting back OTR but with everything I see/read on social media these days going on in the trucking industry, I am going to pass. I will be safer just staying at the house. Stories like these, drivers pulling out guns over minor incidents, are so remarkable. All of the interstate ‘pile-ups’ occurring in winter weather these days is unbelievable! Does anyone use a CB (correctly) anymore? Was all this bullshit happening while I was out there before and with today’s instant access on the internet, info is just easier to see now? I mean, Swift was a joke when I retired and had the most accidents, that seems unchanged. JB and the Pumpkin Outfit took the brunt of ribbing when I was driving but I rarely see/hear anything about them anymore. Are they the good guys now? So much has changed, and not for the better.
Hutton says
The unnamed man discharged his firearm and was free to go.florida..
Driver shoots an other driver in Jackson ga after other driver points a firearm at him ..loves fuel island
And was free to go..it’s self defense..case closed. Welcome to the south..you are welcome to come downhere please leave your aggressive behavior at home..
Chicken man!
Hollow points says
No warning shot from me, only flesh shots. By breaking into my cab and reaching for a gun I’m legally obligated to shot you. Even if Florida wasn’t a stand your ground state it was no way the guy could have retreated to avoid use of force. I’ve asked dot at 1 weight station, who said there’s no law not allowing firearms in trucks. I asked another officer at a different scale in a different state what can I carry for self defense and he directly told me I can carry a pistol and even gave me websites to prove it. He said just check if my permit is valid in the current state I’m in, if not just leave the gun inside my truck. Go to GUNS TO CARRY.COM as they help me the most with the states gun laws. Some customers have no gun signs and I just make sure they dont see my gun. I had to turn down a prison load 2 weeks ago because of my gun. They inspect your truck inside n out and federal property is a HUGE no no for guns. If you ever get a load for showing fcc (federal corrections center) dont go there strapped. States like texas give power of the law to no gun signs and you can be charged Anywhere it’s a no gun sign. I conceal carry all the time in n out my truck. I’ve open carry at times where it’s legal. Be eduacated and know your laws/rights locally and nationally.
GARY says
You can carry a gun in your truck but you have to check on your company policy that’s why most people think they can’t carry a gun it’s not a law stating that you can’t carry a gun it’s the company policy so make sure before you put a gun in your truck you double check with the company policy that you drive for or that your lease to and also make sure you check the regulations in the states that you travel in as well because not every state will recognize your concealed permit that you have some states don’t recognize others and if you get caught then that’s on you
Riatonon says
If everyone is going to carry then I guess I am going to have to carry a Gatlin gun and an AK 47 and a Street Sweeper.
Kevin says
It’s a catch 22. You could legally, but not in all states, so NO you shouldn’t of you don’t want to get in some potential trouble.
Mark says
It’s interesting that nobody is talking about the driver in two spaces. If he cared enough to park correctly, or just moved over, this isn’t a story.
Royce says
Another fine example of redundant government at work. Bring on the laws, we need more laws, that will fix it for sure.
J says
You can’t carry a gun if your company don’t let you otherwise yes you can
James says
I have a friend who has a 20 gauge shotgun in his truck..Whenever hes asked by DOT if he has any weapons, he tells them and they look at it and hand it back to him..No problem
Kyle says
That is a old myth that you could not carry in a commercial vehicle. There is no law in any state that says the law changes in a commercial vehicle. I have been open and concealed carrying since 21 and never had a problem what so ever. Do your research, and not believe everything you here. EXCERCISE YOUR RIGHTS!!
Dana says
This is ridiculous! Yes, bringing guns to a parking dispute is wrong. However, why didn’t the driver just be neighbourly and scoot his truck over to let the second trucker get a goodnight sleep??????? That’s why the trucking industry is shit! Nobody wants to be friendly and courteous to their fellow truckers!!!!!
John says
It’s the wild wild west up in Florida!!
Musketeer says
I think you guys missed the point of the article. It isn’t about guns! It’s about parking! Don’t take up 2 spaces when you park… This is a common sense practice. Had the unnamed driver parked in one space, the other driver never would have pulled his gun to threaten the unnamed driver. As he would have been in only one space, and the likely hood of the second space being available would have been a moot point because it would have been filled with not the abusive gun owner but someone else. Hence this story would never have been published. The moral of the story is PARK IN ONE SPOT, AND MAKE SURE YOU ARE OUT OF THE WAY OF OTHER DRIVER’S PATH.
Inanyminet says
Your kidding me right? You cannot honestly believe what you just said. Sounds like a Y2K driver.
Cerone says
Off clock on my own time….
C. Bullard says
You can carry a gun in your truck you just got to go by state laws and regulations. I got pulled over showed D.O.T. my permit and showed him my gun. Once he ran everything I come back good he said have a nice day.
Stephon says
U can have a gun as long as u got a federal carrying permit
mousekiller says
There is no federal law that says you can’t have a gun in the truck. it is states and the company you drive for that control that..
Chuck says
I see alot of people know the law like they are all lawyers and such. What i dont see though are any federal or state statutes that state were its legal or illegal in any way shape or form…
Daniel says
I was at the loves yesterday I thank God I didn’t go to the TA.. I just don’t get it what ever happened to common courtesy, flashing your light and flashing back to say thank you. Or helping out a fellow driver and guiding him into a spot because he just drove 11 hrs now everybody would rather pull out thier cell phones and record them and see if he hits anything or anyone and put it on YouTube or Facebook… S.M.H
Matt McCollum says
Theres no law saying drivers can’t carry guns,,,, you have to know each state’s laws
AM says
Nearly every company has a policy against carrying. Owners are not bound by any policy but their own.
Some states issue concealed carry permits that are honored by some other states. If you want to know, you’d best look it up. Many states allow loaded open carry with no permit.
No state should give you any trouble if you have a firearm locked and seperate from ammo while rolling. Nothing to keep you from readying it when stopped.
If you are not ready to learn the laws of every locality you pass through it’s just easier to simply not carry…but you have to decide for yourself whether or not it is wiser.
Law says
The second amendment allows yuou to bear arms….no matter what other law there is. Our four fathers know what will happened if the people didn’t have this right.
Rick says
Good points here but the major point here seemingly is that there is just not enough safe parking spots in the nation. Truck stops are not safe even if they are a free place to park but as you can see parking space or the lack there of is becoming just another trigger for violence in trucking, not the fact of guns being allowed or not. I had a similar incident out in Portland Oregon and I got lucky enough that I did not stay parked for the night at the TA truck stop in troutdale off interstate 84 and went to a secured parking lot for trucks about a mile away off exit I think 16 and found out the next morning that two drivers got into a fight over one free space left over at TA and ended up with. Threats and one of them in jail, was the best $20 I ever spent. The darn states need to start spending time and money on comin up with an answer to parking. As for the place I stayed was named truck depot you can find them on trucker path app.
Darrell W Wright says
Would you rather be judged by 12 or carried by six !
Jazzman says
If you guys/gals were as professional as you so called are or wanna be you wouldn’t need a gun. Bunch of plastic drivers today …no respect for one another ..no comrodery and no concern. Thats why you need to carry. We never used to have to do that.. you all came in the business in the last 25 years and screwed it all up with your bullcrap attitude
Terry says
You can carry in the states that you are permitted for. And you can carry in a commercial vehicle. I even ask s DOT Offercer and he said yes. The States that does not recognize your permit must have your gun cased up like in New York Connecticut ect ..
Milton Johnston says
Some states you can’t carry. Some cities as well, like Chicago. Or at least don’t get caught. Some states like Ohio, Wyoming and such, you can open carry. The no carry in a commercial vehicle is company rules not a federal law. Don’t, DO NOT, go into Canada with a gun. Not even a good idea.
possum says
I just want to know why this guy took up 2 spaces unless he,was a wide load
Martin e Neltner says
Interesting comments. As such they are all comments. Most companies donot permit guns. The issue is traveling through states that don’t permit concealed carry on even if you have the right. It’s a state rule.
So common sense here prevails. The trucker who allegedly took two spaces wrong. The one who complained should have complained to the truck stop security. Let them handle situation. If no security he could have taken pictures and sent to the company or called the police. There were options. Never an option to bang on the door, break a window shoot a gun over a parking spot. That is very unprofessional and stupid. Come on gentlemen let’s be professional.
Jose a rangel says
You can have gun within the legal requirements upon the state but big trucking companies do not want you to have a gun because of insurance protocol that’s why I’m an owner operator from southern Cali with a non resident virgina ccw which allow me to carry in 28 states
Silverspur says
Why does this guy need 2 spaces? He could have moved his truck to accommodate The Coz.
Oh well, chalk another one up to the HOS.
James says
He was an oversized load
Mike says
Well just remember… It’s one thing to carry it… And another thing g to use it…. Just remember that.
Roadless traveled says
Old topic, same bickering , 🍿🍿🍿nom nom nom I’m enjoying the popcorn
Ed says
There are 3 laws on the books regarding CCW:
1. You can’take take a weapon across the Canadian or Mexican border.
2. There are some municipalities, mostly in the northeast, that have local ordinances that prohibit firearms in commercial vehicles (and passenger cars, with a handful of exceptions, such as for hunters).
3. The state you’really in must have a reciprocity agreement with the state your CCW Permit was issued.
Luke says
I think as long as your responsible and openly carry it, then it should only be used in emergencies. Such as, if you have a live load.
Jesse Watford says
This is a prime example of the morons companies are putting in trucks!
Benjamin says
I’m no expert, but as an owner operator who keeps a gun in my sleeper I’m confident in saying that a sleeper qualifies as my home and I have the right to protect it as such.
And, the Only time it comes out of the locked case and gets a clip is when I’m parked and off duty.
Let’s use some common sense out there…
That being said, a day cab may not qualify wether you have a permit or a CCW.
Jjbee says
Your company probably has a rule against carrying a firearm in your truck. This rule applies to owner operators leased to a company.
If you cross state lines, like most of us, whether you can carry depends upon the rules of each state. Some states require the gun be unloaded, out of reach and stored separate from the ammunition.
If you cross into Canada, you can’t take your guns with you.
Stumblefoot says
Alot of opinions by people who weren’t there..we don’t know why or IF the driver was taking 2 spaces..all we know is Cozzie broke into the truck using a fire extinguisher to break the window..how angry does someone have to be to do that? Calm down! Act responsible, be kind and polite..
James says
I was parked nexted to the driver who made the shot. He was an oversized load. He had to take up 2 spots. The other driver was drunk and thought he could squeeze in there. They argued and then he went and grabbed his thermos and broke the passenger window. Seconds after the window shattered the other driver shot. He never got into the truck or tried to. After the shot and jumped back in his truck and took off. The police caught him down the road
Andrey says
2nd amendment of constitution.
The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
THIS MEAN NO ONE STATE NO ONE POLICY CAN SAY NO GUN !
CONSTITUTION HAS PRIORITY OVER ANY STATE LAW REMEMBER THAT TILL THE REST OF YOUR LIFE!!!
IF YOUR COMPANY OR INSURANCE
SAY NO GUN YOU CAN SUIT THEM BECAUSE THEY COMMIT CRIME AGAINST CONSTITUTION AND PUT YOUR LIFE IN DANGER.
James says
THERE IS NO LAWS STATING THAT YOU CANNOT CARRY A GUN IN A CMV. There are state laws restricting how you carry it. There are state laws that require various permits or have reciprocity with other state CCW permits. There are company regulations that prohibit it. But there is NO LAW PROHIBITING IT. As a matter of fact if you switch from a handgun to a nice short barrel shotgun you are legal in all 48.
Aruba Runner says
It was florida. Everyone carrys there!!
Sara says
Ok fools California says different no weapons in trucks,cars ,pickups mopeds bikes skateboards. California only cops and gangs have guns. May not carry a weapon either. Unless you are authorized protecting the law.
Rebecca Holtorf says
Before calling other people fools….
“Under California law a concealed handgun can legally be transported with a motor vehicle without a permit only by carrying it: Unloaded. Locked in the vehicle’s trunk or in a separate locked container other than the utility or glove compartment.”
The more you know!
Sara says
Did I mention tricycles? Well you can’t carry a gun on that horses bulls or your pet.
Rebecca Holtorf says
The use of the term “steering wheel holder” is part of the problem out here. In regards to new drivers these are men and women that like the drivers 100 years ago are willing to leave their friends and family behind to EARN a living instead of selling drugs or living on welfare. How about instead of the derogatory words and name calling we put our cell phones down at a truck stop and talk to one another again and help the next generation along?
Pedro says
You don’t need a permit as long as it stays IN the truck
James says
This story is only half true. I was parked next to the driver who was sleeping. I’m the one who made the call to 911. The driver next got into the cab of the truck. He did break the window with his thermos and the other driver fired a shot. Then the guy jumped in his truck and took off down the road. They caught him a little while later