Brokers Taking Advantage Of Truckers with LOW RATES

Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by TC Diamond, Apr 9, 2020.

  1. Lyle H

    Lyle H Road Train Member

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    If you really want to confuse him, explain to him how buying the more expensive fuel can actually be cheaper.
    That will make him scratch his head for a while....
     
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  3. Wasted Thyme

    Wasted Thyme Road Train Member

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    I think the logic is this...should all the gas stations keep their fuel prices high because all of the demand for gas is gone right now? People staying at home. There is a surplus of gas. Thus the gas stations are making less money...etc. It is the same facts that the OP is complaining about. There is a surplus of drivers and thus the demand to get a load moved is less. That equates to loads being posted at cheaper prices, and drivers either taking them or passing them up. But someone WILL take them.
     
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  4. PoleCrusher

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    Selling fuel and hauling freight are vastly different.

    The stations are still making a profit on the fuel, regardless of the price, although with less volume. The crude refiners are the ones taking a hit right now.

    Choosing to haul a load at a loss is just dumb. Ya can't blame the shippers or brokers, it's not their fault there's someone willing to pay them to haul their freight.
     
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  5. AIL

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    Let's think about this sensibly, If we park it your out of a job. Remember who needs who. Without truckers not only would you be out of a job but this country would fold. Trucks can not only run without brokers, but I dare to say they can run smoother, making more money, and saving the shipper/receiver money knocking out the only branch of the industry that absolutely has no active labor in trade. Brokers on the other hand can't exist without truckers, PERIOD. The truckers have all the control but unfortunately don't use any of it. We just keep fighting to make a dollar and complaining about how it is. Just putting things into perspective. Let's keep looking ahead and working to make things better for all of us.
     
  6. PPDCT

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    I'm aware of this. I'd encourage you to look at my posting history before you jump to any conclusions.

    Simply put- there is a glut of capacity in the market, and has been since the rates peaked in 2018 following the ELD mandate. The rates will continue to trend downward, especially with COVID-19 reducing freight volume. Until enough drivers either park, or the market bounces back, this is a trend that will continue.

    But hey, feel free to throw out the impassioned "you need us!" posts if it makes you feel better. I'll continue to discuss market forces that are causing the low rates.
     
  7. Linebacker415

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    Our Biggest problem is Our inability to Organize and unite with one another and hold firm on a Benchmark rate that’s worth our while. If we could all hold out and not move anything for 1 month. Picture 1 million truckers refusing to move a load... That would impact the entire industry and shake things up..
    A Truckers Strike!!!
     
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  8. PPDCT

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    Here we go again...
     
  9. D.Tibbitt

    D.Tibbitt Road Train Member

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    Hey brokers are just as important as truckers. Yeah maybe the owner op could go out and find loads themselves from shippers , but u aint gonna find the time to do that nor do most truckers have sales experience so u are severely lacking. As much as some brokers can make life miserable they are a valuable link in the supply chain and serve an important purpose
     
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  10. Lonesome

    Lonesome Mr. Sarcasm

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    You going to take the lead?
     
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  11. AIL

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    I'm just stating the facts wether your willing to accept them or not. You can construe it or try to argue job justification any way you want to but nothing changes the facts. Regardless of what the industry is doing or not doing you or I can do nothing about it, but throwing another element into the equation "hint hint" just causes more problems on getting the freight moved reasonably. The Government has tons of nonsense restrictions and requirements on the trucking industry and has came up with every excuse why because its a huge money flow in their direction and there not willing to give that up right or wrong. The brokerage companies has jumped on the ban wagon making big money on something they never see or touch all the while we truckers are out here busting our tails, paying huge liability rates, staying away from our families, and paying ungodly prices for parts and repairs to keep you and the Government happy. AGAIN FACTS ARE FACTS AND YOU CAN'T CHANGE THAT reguardless of how much you try and justify your job. Let's not get this out of perspective nor change FACTS. Knowledge of the industry is not justification to take advantage of the people doing all the work, a bank robber studies and obtains knowledge before executing his deed on the bank because he does not have intentions of being put out of his job either but that doesn't make it right nor does it create justification on what he is doing. AGAIN, PERSPECTIVE.
     
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