Truck payment is $32k/yr. I have a 2019 International LT that I purchased brand new from the dealership. I spent about $36k last year in fuel. $68k came with down payment on my truck, truck insurance costs, tolls, IFTA, obtaining my authority, attorney fees, state license fees, etc.
This year, my overhead will be higher because Progressive increased my premium by 50%. Fuel will be almost the same. I calculate my fuel as a fixed cost since I try not to go over $700 per week on fuel. With fixed and variable costs, I’m calculating total overhead costs at $2,237/wk.
Prior to COVID-19, my gross profits were $3,000 to $4,000/wk. This left a net profit of $763.38-$1,763. I take 20% for salary and 70% is reinvested in my company.
Currently, Net profits are down by as much as 39%. This 39% is what I requested from the SBA EIDL loan.
Can my business survive with a profit loss of 39%? Yes. But that’s not the point. The point is that the loan program was established for companies that have been impacted by this national epidemic.
It’s a loan not a free hand out. Why shouldn’t I utilize all tools that are available to my company? Someone presents to me an investment into my company for $100,000 for 20% equity in my business, should I turn it down. $100,000 can be used to expand my business such as purchasing a truck and hiring a driver that could increase my profits by 50%. Or, I could pay off my current truck and increase my profit by 50%, use that 50% profit increase to purchase a second truck increasing profits to 60%.
Hopes this answers your question.
Can I vent just for a minute.........
Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by femalecdla, Jun 26, 2020.
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Lots of fraudulent applications; they got it. 1 Chinese fellow received almost 1 million, before getting caugh
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Mistakes are made, fuel is a variable, using it as a fixed cost without a spill over seems to be foolish.
If your truck isn't running your variable costs are down to zero and understandably the revenue is down but your net profits should be too.
But I think you were the one who posted about insurance being high, if progressive is screwing you by 50% more, then you should address that because they are not increasing everyone's rates by that much if at all.
It would be foolish to use this loan for an expansion with an unknown future, there is another talk about a nation wide shutdown and this will screw a lot of people in this industry.tommymonza Thanks this. -
I'm pretty upset with it myself. I got denied because its showing I have an active chapter 13 bankruptcy that I paid off in October. So should be dismissed but the courts are closed so I got denied. Eidl is a huge scam anyways
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You can use it to pay for fuel, tolls, insurance, other fixed cost bills and payroll when PPP is used up.
Pretty sure that using it as a working capital in such a way that you would redirect all account receivables towards expansion while using EIDL for anything else, could be put to question too - as indirectly misappropriated. It might hard be to prove, but possible to accuse an individual for doing so nonetheless. The penalties are pretty harsh too. 1.5 of the original amount of the loan.Last edited: Jun 28, 2020
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I never said that I would use the money for expansion of my business. Although, there are business owners that have done just that. The loan can be used to pay truck notes, insurance, rent, utilities, etc.
I requested the money specifically to cover the cost of insurance. Again, the specific’s that I requested was only to cover the decline in profits which for my business is like $23k.
Since Progressive increased my insurance premium by over 50%, a huge portion of my gross and reserves has been allocated to paying Progressive. Please go back and read my posts on this subject if it’s not clear for you.
Since January of this year, Progressive has demanded that I pay over $13,000. That’s up front money which has to come from money on reserves.
As I stated in another post, It’s something I have to deal with until I can find another insurance company that will not do what Progressive has done to me.
I have 3 payments left with Progressive and should be paid up my September. In October, I will be able to shop around for a better insurance company.
By December, my authority will be 1 years old and my insurance agent will have better insurance companies for my business.
As I said before, my business will survive this epidemic but I’m not going to sit here and pretend that my profits haven’t been effected by this epidemic. It has and my profit and loss statement shows this. My overhead remains the same regardless. Thus it would be adventurous for me to apply for the EIDL loan which I did. Sadly, they declined my loan offer (which they offered to me $50,000 and I requested $24,000). A $1,000 was advanced to my company which I immediately paid to Progressive Insurance Company. That would have left $23.000 which I would have allocated to the remaining payments to Progressive plus partial payment into next years insurance premium payment.
Next year, my insurance premium will be half of what I’m paying now as a new entrant and that money would have gone to pay back the EIDL loan by December of 2021.
So, again, where’s this free handout/wannabe welfare queen that the other poster suggested? My offer still stands, let’s compare financial data and you educate me on where I’m going wrong and perhaps you can educate me on something I’m missing. -
I don't think we are the real problem. It will be the people who lied and took advantage of it. Who then don't pay it back. I'm guessing it will be a high number 20%.
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You definitely need to find the reason progressive is charging you 50% more.Midwest Trucker, 86scotty and tommymonza Thank this. -
She also said that many owners don't even read their policies and don't get that there are a lot of restrictions.Coffey Thanks this.
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