Opinions on a truck I'm looking at

Discussion in 'Expediter and Hot Shot Trucking Forum' started by 24kHotshot, Jul 25, 2020.

  1. Brandonpdx

    Brandonpdx Road Train Member

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    Nah you want a real sleeper. I've seen them with them. There's actually a lot selling a really nice older one with a real bunk on it. better than a 550? IMO yes. real sleeper, air brakes, 22.5 rubber, probably has dual tanks and holds at least 100 gallons of fuel. Has a hauler bed already on it.

    Used 2001 Freightliner For Sale at S H Motor Sales | VIN: 1FVABLAL71HA09202
     
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  3. Xray4

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    Nice thanks I'll take a look.

    Sorry I don't mean to hijack this thread!
     
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  4. 24kHotshot

    24kHotshot Heavy Load Member

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    Go right ahead! We dont need multiple posts about the same subject.
     
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    @24kHotshot , thank you but boot me out of this thread if I point it away from your focus.

    So looking at the FL50 @Brandonpdx sent, looks like a nice ride. Seems like a 'mini' tractor for lack of proper terminology.. You had mentioned avoiding I think the FL70 and go for a big block instead. I'm assuming the 50 and 70 indicate smaller output versus the 120 like what @singlescrewshaker has right?

    I don't remember what engines, but I remember 15 years ago driving school busses with auto md3060 transmissions and even empty they wouldn't pull up small hills. They were 185hp I think, and I just remember that it sucked. I want to avoid not having any power. I'm based in phx and will have hills to climb right away in the high heat to go north and north east..

    Also, for dates Id want to avoid DEF and the emissions junk but, there's a lot of decent paying loads into california around here that I understand I would not be able to take, not be able to go into california because we'll it's California... I read about some laws nothing older than 2010 allowed..

    Is this accurate?
     
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  6. Brandonpdx

    Brandonpdx Road Train Member

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    Technically yes but people go to CA all the time with pre-emissions trucks. It’s if you live in CA where they really clamp down on what they allow to be registered.

    That truck has a 3126 cat which is generally regarded as a decent motor with a couple little things to watch out for. Adept Ape on YouTube has talked about them favorably and he’s a cat mechanic. Transmission is an Allison. Those are pretty tough little buggers.
     
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  7. 24kHotshot

    24kHotshot Heavy Load Member

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    I don't run the west coast so I don't know about CA.

    As an example:
    That 3126 cat in the truck is 300HP and around 800 ft/lb torque.
    My cummins 6.7 is derated and has 360 HP and 800 ft/lb torque

    I guess they pull about the same except that FL70 weighs more than 10,000 like my truck does. Maybe the chassis is heavier and better built but identical in power/pull.

    I'm registered at 38,000 lbs gcvwr on my truck. I truly don't like going past 33k lbs as you can feel the truck starting to struggle and burn more fuel. Thats why i like the big block engines. They are overpowered for our weight class but struggle less.
    I'd register for 55k lbs with a single axle big block.
     
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    daf105paccar Road Train Member

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    Be carefull not to overpower a EPA10 or ounger truck
     
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  9. Xray4

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    This is really helpful thank you. My Ford has 440hp at 2800rpm, and 925ftlb torque at 1800 rpm. It'd feel a bit strange reducing in power and torque in a bigger and heavier rig. Even with higher rated axles and far superior brakes, it'd feel off... I guess I'm looking for a bigger truck for my hills
     
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  10. singlescrewshaker

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    LoL, Yeah you ain't gonna like a 300hp 3126, or c7 Cat over your 440hp Powerstroke.
    Though the 3126, or C7 is a decent motor, there are a few downsides to it..

    #1 lack of displacement. It's only a 440ci 7.2L displacement.
    #2 it's not a sleeved engine. So no swapping out the liners to do a proper rebuild. Kind of a throw away motor IMO..
    #3 It used the HEUI fuel injectors. Same style as 7.3 Powerstroke uses. (Joint venture between Cat & IH) Uses high pressure oil to fire the injectors. Very hard on oil, meaning to me short OCI of 5-7k miles. Not cheap with a 10-11 gallon oil sump..
     
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  11. singlescrewshaker

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    Good point. Correct me if I am wrong. I will try to translate what you are saying in a super brief summary..

    Any thing with a DPF can be bad to actually have too much engine. By not working it hard enough with too light of loads, it will not generate sufficient heat to properly burn off the soot collected in the DPF, & be hard on the emission system in general..
     
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