Broker Transparency

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  1. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    Well we've been knocking back 4 to 6 a week, after overhead.

    That's a lot of burgers.

    But still not the big time. Wonder how much of that should have been siphoned off in the eyes of the white collar?


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  3. REO6205

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    Start your own brokerage, Dave. Run it for a couple of years and then come back and tell us what you think.
     
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    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    I don't need to do that to answer the original question that still stands.
     
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    To the best of my knowledge, double brokering has been illegal since 2013. Co-brokering, however, is legal.

    Double brokering being when a broker brokers freight to a "carrier" who is secretly another broker. It screws up the chain of custody when it comes to complaints, and chasing billing, and that kind of thing.

    Co-brokering is different in the fact that all parties are aware of what's going on.

    Anyone feel free to correct me if I'm barking up the wrong tree.
     
  6. REO6205

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    Maybe so but look at it from the broker's point of view. They have to deal with shippers all day every day and that ain't no picnic.
    A shipper, if he has anything at all on the ball, knows right to the penny what his manufacturing costs are. Shipping rates are a part of that. It's one of the few costs that can be controlled or manipulated. The shipper will often try to lowball the broker and if the broker wants the business he has to take whatever the shipper wants to pay. The shipper can be ruthless. In a lot of cases he has to be ruthless to keep his costs down.
    I'm not sticking up for brokers. I don't use them and I've had my share of bad experiences with them but they're a necessary part of the business. At least for the time being.
    . I'm just saying that when a broker gets a chance he's going to make all the profit he can and if that means a crappy rate, so be it. You're just another guy with a truck. The good hauls, the steady hauls for a decent rate, don't come from brokers anyway.
    Try going shipper direct sometime. Try going head to head with a rate clerk that has orders not to pay over a certain amount. It'll test your diplomacy skills.
     
  7. Dave_in_AZ

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    Being as I'm a carrier. I'll stick to the carriers point of view.

    I've begged my brother to become an agent.
    He could sell a horse rancher a bag of horse ####.

    That's not my forte. I thank you for your suggestions that I try all these things, but I don't need to.

    I can't wait to see how much we make when I live up to our esteemed members expectations. Or start running my unscrupulous business model correctly.

    I mean one guy won't even go home for Christmas.
     
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    Most of these have fallen off. Think the biggest was 25.

    I apologize if I broke everyone's concentration.

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    Because it's one of many outdated regs. Many shippers have NDA's many even in the bidding process. Shippers have not been regulated since the motor carrier act of 1978. So you want a cfr that contradicts any NDA they have.
     
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    Obvious you never met the prom queen in my school.
     
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  11. Dave_in_AZ

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    I kinda figured information was power. The more informed one is, the better.

    And I always liked deciding which information I found useful, and considered the sources from where it came.

    I'm certain there's more than a few old law's that go back to colonial times. But no one is raising a fuss about them.

    The brokers certainly are raising a fuss about this, spending that hard money to try and get it passed.

    Seems very illogical to me.
     
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