How inevitable are driver-unfriendly loads at a typical dry van company?

Dave_in_AZ · Feb 9, 2021

Harry Flashman said: ↑

I had a shipper that loaded me to 82,000 gross.

I took my scale ticket back and they refused to rework the load because they didn’t have the “authority” to modify the customers order.

I called my company and it took until the next day for various threats to convince them to rework the load.

I would call that shipper unfriendly.
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Yea. Agent goes," That warehouse supervisor is an expert."

I'm like," No. 4500 pounds over on the tandems does not get your expert badge."

It's off me, sitting on their dock.

F4T6UY · Feb 9, 2021

Laredo is good fun from all angles.

Powder Joints · Feb 9, 2021

Dave_in_AZ said: ↑

This may be considered driver unfriendly-

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Where your tandems set. If there already slid up, then time to take it back to the shipper/

mathematrucker · Feb 9, 2021

buddyd157 said: ↑

i was a driver for 48 years, before i retired...what the heck are bad loads?

1) one where you actually have to get off your butt and fingerprint a few boxes?

2) one where you have to stand on the dock and count the boxes?

3) one where you have to hand load each pallet and then use a fork lift and put them into the trailer yourself?

4) one in which you get there, back up to the dock, and are told you have to sit for several hours, cuz the load ain't ready yet?

well first.....

1) you're a company EMPLOYEE, you GO WHERE the freight is

2) you are lucky to HAVE a job

3) if the freight is with-in YOUR area of where you dropped off your last load, YOU GO WHERE you are told to go.

4) some companies decline cheaper, or working the trailer freight, but SOME ACCEPT that freight, as it pays to get the truck OUT of the area where you are at presently.

5) some drivers actually like some sort of diversion from the yawning job they have.

6) JUST do as you are told, you're a COMPANY DRIVER

i ran the road, LONG HAUL as it was called back in my day, but too many griped about the terminology, so it was renamed...OTR or OVER THE ROAD, and i can assure you it was not for the namby-pamby's, gotta be drivin' an automatic, be home weekly crowd,

then i did regional, home every few days.

then i did dedicated till the day i retired, (many years worth of dedicated)

and ya know what..??

every now and then, I HAD TO DO a load that was out of the ordinary..

and ya know what..???

I DID IT, with NO complaints.....

why...??

CUZ IT WAS MY JOB
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There's nothing wrong with being curious about the factors that go into which loads you're assigned.

Powder Joints · Feb 10, 2021

mathematrucker said: ↑

There's nothing wrong with being curious about the factors that go into which loads you're assigned.
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Well honestly for most new drivers anything they have to fingerprint is bad, Me personally Its just a part of trucking. There are so many things that a new driver has to learn to deal with loading and unloading should be a deal, Nowadays a very high percentage of the loads are pre-loaded drop n hooks. A lot has changed, no more lines at the payphones, is a positive, Fairly decent gps's are a plus, doesnot mean you dont have to learn to check out your route. A GPS at times will lead you into places a new driver may not be able to get out of.
I went to a location to check it out this weekend in my Chevy 4X, and I used me GPS, to get into to some fairly serious mud wamping, fun enough in a Pickup, would have never followed those direction in the W9 I have been driving. Basicly there's just so much more than loading, I would give up the sunrises every morning. Anyway if your a new driver with a trainer, listen up they may just help you. Theres lots of myth's as well such as the Banning Scales, when you get there just no big deal. Be Safe....Keep the shinny side down......

Bumper Dumper · Apr 2, 2021

buddyd157 said: ↑

are you even a driver yourself?

let me tell you something, to me, it is not called "exploitation" when you work for a bona fide, good company. it IS however called EXPLOITATION, when one works for a 1099 company.

so please, get your stuff straight.
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Why do you say driving for a 1099 company is exploitation?

Bumper Dumper · Apr 2, 2021

Powder Joints said: ↑

Where your tandems set. If there already slid up, then time to take it back to the shipper/
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They would need to be slid back, not up.

RockinChair · Apr 2, 2021

tscottme said: ↑

Bos "we're all on the same team. My part of the team is paid $1800 for that load, I work banker's hours, I have weekends & holidays off, and sleep at home. You're part of the team that gets paid $250 for that load, has to wait 9 hours to unload, get to crap in a porta-potty, and goes home 4 times a year."
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You forgot the part where the boss risked his personal assets in order to start that business, and the times he couldn't pay himself because doing so would mean not making payroll.

MACK E-6 · Apr 2, 2021

buddyd157 said: ↑

any driver worth his "salt" can back in a 53 footer, where any other trailer went into.

it comes down to looking at the situation, sizing it up, backing, getting out and looking.
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I can think of a few places I deliver to where my 48’ liftgate won’t make it, so a 53’ is impossible.

Let’s see here, driver unfriendly...

Anybody that ships 10 foot long pallets weighing 1000 lbs to places without a dock and/or forklift is something I’d call driver unfriendly.

Any consignees that demand inside deliveries and don’t have double doors so it takes 5 times as long as any of the other 20 stops you have to get off that day are something else I’d call driver unfriendly.

Let’s not forget the house deliveries in remote locations down dead end roads with nowhere to turn around so you have to drive backwards for 2 miles.

Oh, did I mention that maybe THREE out of the 75 so-called peddle hands that work out of my terminal would even attempt such things?

@road_runner @Gearjammin' Penguin Feel free to jump in with some of your horror stories. I’m sure you have just as many as I.

Dave_in_AZ · Apr 2, 2021

I honestly don't care about location or weight as long as we can scale it. Sometimes we win, sometimes they win. As long as it's legal, and it doesn't take too long to load and unload, could care less.

As far as locations, I'm going to toot the cat's horn a bit, cause if the cat can't get in there, it's just not happening.

Even the really tight ones, hard, whatever, soon as the guy hands you your bols, your away from the dock, I'm looking ahead, the stuff in the mirror is just that.

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