Leasing and DEF Systems

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by BlindMan, Apr 7, 2021.

  1. BlindMan

    BlindMan Bobtail Member

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    So this is gonna be a two parter because I can't seem to find a straight answer on either question.

    1. I'm looking at becoming an O/O within the next year, but I'm unsure if I should get my feet wet by leasing my truck on to a company and running under their authority, or going balls to the wall and going completely independent right out of the gate (I know around 50% of the drivers that do that fail so I'm trying to be cautious, I did the math and am aware of my total projected yearly expenses and yes, they do make me sweat), I keep trying to reach out to companies to actually ask questions, but I get directed to check out their websites that never seem to answer anything. Any advice?

    2. The two trucks I've looked at are pre-def trucks (both 06s), is a def system required to run? I don't want to restrict myself too much, or get fined to high heaven for not having the system
     
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  3. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    1. I don't know.
    2. '06s would not have a DPF or use DEF.
     
  4. HillbillyDeluxeTruck

    HillbillyDeluxeTruck Road Train Member

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    I think you're confused on the terms of DEF, which is Diesel Exhaust Fluid and the actual emissions systems consisting of a DPF/SCR system, which the later models (like '12 and up) use DEF fluid, while the early units (08-11ish)did not use the fluid and relied on using extra diesel to clean the filters.
     
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  5. Midwest Trucker

    Midwest Trucker Road Train Member

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    Balls to the wall with your own authority or stay on the porch is my opinion. Buy a. New truck if you can afford it. If you can’t then a used truck will cost you more regardless. Spend it now nor spend it later. Regardless, you will be spending a lot of money.
     
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  6. BlindMan

    BlindMan Bobtail Member

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    Ok but I'm asking if the truck wasn't manufactured with either of the systems do I need to have one installed on the truck before the wheels hit the interstate?
     
  7. lester

    lester Midwest's #1 Feed Hauler

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    I think California is the only state that has laws enforcing emissions standards. Any other state you are good to go. There's hundreds of thousands of trucks still working everyday without emissions systems like new trucks have
     
  8. BlindMan

    BlindMan Bobtail Member

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    That's what I thought but I wasn't 100% sure, thank you
     
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  9. slow.rider

    slow.rider Road Train Member

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    To go to California you do, otherwise it's up to the carrier you lease to, butI'm not aware of any that care about emissions, unless they want you to go to California. Aside from that, some lease companies will simply want your truck to be ELD capable, which is pretty much like '97 or newer, and some older.

    It's possible to be successful leasing on, if you're careful who you lease onto. There's a lot of bad options out there. Generally, if it pays by the mile, it's probably bad.
     
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  10. BlindMan

    BlindMan Bobtail Member

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    I want to buy a new/newer truck, but figured that keeping my initial start ups lower would be a buffer if I mess up, then I wouldn't be stuck with 70k worth of debt if things for one reason or another didn't work out. I recognize that one way or the other the highway Gods will get my money, I just want to make sure my kids can eat first
     
  11. lester

    lester Midwest's #1 Feed Hauler

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    Do you have trucking experience?
     
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