Taking the plunge. My journey as an O/O.

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Farmerbob1, Jan 7, 2019.

  1. Farmerbob1

    Farmerbob1 Road Train Member

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    Eh? I do not need a lawyer for an LLC. The LLC is a separate legal entity. If all I ever do is work as a solo o/o the benefits will be minimal, nearly nonexistent now that I know my personal EIN, but in the future that may change.
     
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  3. Scooter Jones

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    1. Form the LLC

    2. Apply for S-Corp filing status with the IRS on the basis you plan to "expand" your fleet in the future.

    3. S-Corp pays your "reasonable" salary and benefits, including per diem. Of course your SS, Medicare, Federal & State taxes are calculated & deducted from the taxable W-2 Gross, just like it would be if you were an employee. The S-Corp pays the matching side of any SS tax, etc.

    4. After all expenses are deducted, including your payroll costs, any distributions you take from the S-Corp are taxed on whatever tax bracket you're in for that given year. Keep in mind, you're not paying social security tax on either side of the equation, or medicare tax on the distribution either. That alone can potentially save you thousands of dollars in a given year.

    It's not rocket science. Heck, even Joe Biden utilized this structure by forming an LLC on a book he had published a couple of years ago and saved over a hundred thousand (plus) in taxes that year LOL
     
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  4. Scooter Jones

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    Shhhhh...just don't tell anyone though LOL

     
  5. Farmerbob1

    Farmerbob1 Road Train Member

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    Well, I'm in a hotel again. Lat week I started to get codes from the crankcase breather, and when I went bobtail to the shop, my Onguard system started screaming at me with network connection errors.

    So, put it in the shop for four things.

    1. Re-change the oil to what I asked the last shop to put in it. 10W30 semi-syn. The last shop wrote that down, then chose to simply put 15W40 in the truck instead without bothering to talk to me about it. Excel Truck Group in Red Bank, SC will never see my truck again.

    2. Read the deep codes on the Crankcase Breather errors, and find out what's going on. The unit is less than a year old, and is not leaking at all. It may be a sensor, or a wire. We shall see.

    3. My passenger side mirror heater is not working properly, not clearing fog, and was not clearing ice well over the end of winter either.

    4. Troubleshoot the Onguard network error. Loose or damaged cable likely. Not sure if the Onguard system itself has permanently connected wires. It looks like the detector is separate from the wiring harness. We shall see.


    Fyda Freightliner in Columbus is where the truck is at. They seem rather busy, and I do not like the delay, but it's the 4th of July weekend. Probably wasn't going to get a decent shop to work on the truck before the end of the weekend anyhow.
     
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  6. Scooter Jones

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    WOW! I hope they get you patched up and back on the road soon.
     
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  7. DUNE-T

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    Here is what I would have done if that was my truck: open up that mirror and see what's going on, most likely just a corroded wire. Rip that stupid onguard system off and forget about it. Less stuff to break down.


    To change this coolant leaking stupid silicone hose, two days ago Freightliner charged my driver $500 and he sat at the dealer for 12 hours.
    If I was the one driving, I would have gone to Home Depot, buy few of their orange buckets, hide at the end of the parking lot somewhere, drain the coolant, install the hose, put a new hose in and be back on the road in less than two hours.

    IMO you have a Mega driver mentality and you will never be a good o/o, you will just keep spinning your wheels for a little reward.

    You are good hardworking person, but after watching your journey for the last couple of years, it looks like you will be way better off being a driver at a good company. Since you don't need to be home often, you should be able to clear $ 100k every single year.

    I just don't see how you will make this whole o/o thing work in the long run. You gotta hustle, yet you always choose the easy way to drop your truck at the most expensive repair place and go relax in a hotel and play video games.
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  8. Midwest Trucker

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    I totally agree with what Dune T is saying, BUT what I was going to say is....

    If you are going to be as picky as you are, which there is nothing wrong with that, then you need to buy a new truck. You have spent so much time and money on this truck that it’s counter productive for YOU to own it at this point.

    Now you get to sit for at least 5 to 7 days doing absolutely nothing over random bs. This is probably a 10k swing for you when revenue is subtracted and bills are added. At least if you weren't with Crete.
     
  9. Cat sdp

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    No one hates new trucks more than me, but you might want to jump ship get your feet on the ground. Then do the math on a new truck.
     
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  10. Farmerbob1

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    I run the ####### out of this truck. I bought it 2.5 years ago at 443k miles and now have 775k miles on it. 332k miles in 2.5 years. It can easily be said that I am not making enough money per mile, but please don't tell me I'm not hustling, or that I sit idle too much, because clearly I do hustle, and I do push miles.

    Most of my downtime has had minimal impact on my income because I mostly do my repairs while on hometime, and I take long stretches of hometime after being away from the house for six to ten weeks. This current issue is an exception.
     
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  11. Farmerbob1

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    The plan at this point is to transition to Schneider o/o on their load board, and see how my income and expenses look after getting away from the Crete o/o training wheels.

    After I see a couple months of operations at Schneider, if things don't go sideways, I will start the process of getting a new truck.
     
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