As EOBR mandate, CSA 2010 loom, on-board technology takes center stage

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  1. rookietrucker

    rookietrucker Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    As EOBR mandate, CSA 2010 loom, on-board technology takes center stage

     
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  3. Markk9

    Markk9 "On your mark"

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    I can't wait for it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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  4. JustSonny

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    Markk9, could you expand on why you embrace this new technology? As a wannabe who will not see first seat driving until next fall, I'm interested in what the benefits are. CSA 2010 and mandatory EOBRs will be the rule by then. I'd just like to stay ahead of the game!
     
  5. Markk9

    Markk9 "On your mark"

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    In the long run it will change the industry. As the system is set up today, it benefits the cheating company and driver. I drove OTR for 3 years, and it didn't take long to figure out the best way to make money. I never drove over my personnel limits, but daily I adjusted my book to get he max driving time. Max drive times means more money in my pocket.

    I now driver for a local company that pays by the hour for all work done. I don't worry but traffic jams, crazy 4 wheel or billy big rigger. I drive into NYC 1 to 2 times a week, I have zero frustration with traffic. I take what every time it takes, and get paid for it all.

    Drivers are all worried about the personal privacy, the company and government controlling and knowing where they are all time. It's a job, the company has the right to know your location and what and how you are treating their equipment. Drivers like to compare themselves to airline pilots, pilots are controlled from the time they come to work, till then go home. The aircraft is being tracked all time by the ATC, and the black box.

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  6. bullhaulerswife

    bullhaulerswife Forum Leader/Admin Staff Member Administrator

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    Ok, Mark, how about my husband, who is an O/O and will have to pay for this equipment, and the carb approved equipment, and guess what? After all that, the bottom line is in the red. Do you realize how many O/O's are on the road out there?

    Your local, so you could care less, but this WILL effect the delivery of your toilet paper and your beer, so I wouldn't be cheering to loud.
     
  7. lowbudget

    lowbudget Medium Load Member

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    Even if it takes 18 or 20 hours, you log all that?

    Never heard of that, must be one of those haughty northeast things.
     
  8. Markk9

    Markk9 "On your mark"

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    Nope but coming up to either the 11 or 14 caps, I call the driving manager, and find a motel and stop for the night. Company credit cards pays for the hotel and meal. 10 hours later I get in the truck and drive to the terminal. I have stopped 45 mins from home because of traffic and hitting the driving cap, some times the manager will come and take home for the night, then back to the truck in morning.

    The big difference is that the company I drive for is not a shipping company. We are delivering our product to our customers. They are not working on a razor thin profit margin, trying under cut the next guy.

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    Markk9 "On your mark"

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    I don't think it should be forced all at once, but should a planned phase. Every truck after such a date will be required to have the new equipment installed at the factory. Older trucks after the first service life is over will be removed from on highway use. Service life is defined by the major manufacturing companies as 1 million miles.

    If you can pay for the carb approved refit, don't go to CA.

    No your wrong on that one. One of the ways big companies have keep consumer prices down is dirt cheap shipping. Big trucking companies are also to blame, they will undercut each other for the contracts. So, yes I would expect items to cost more.

    As for O/O most of the east coast ones we could do with out, they are running trucks that old and worn out. Don't get me wrong, there a some running well taken care of trucks and equipment. But the majority that I see are old and worn out junk.

    All industry, just not trucking, must adjust to new rules and government regulation, why should small trucking companies be exempt?

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  10. bullhaulerswife

    bullhaulerswife Forum Leader/Admin Staff Member Administrator

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    So my husband, who just had an inframe on his 2001, should retire the truck and buy new, because of bureaucrats?

    No way.

    The truck gets a sticker every time he gets inspected. Its in tip top shape, because we don't chrome it up, we maintain it. And its about to roll over to the one million mile mark. Now what??? We just wasted all that money. Get a different truck, higher payments, ad the OEBR, pay for that too, while this truck gets shredded. I say BS.

    Ask southerpride if he wants to shell his 90's model trucks, you'll get the same answer. Go look at the threads on the ISX motors, they are completely messed up. Fixed under warranty, maybe, but if the wheels ain't turning..... no money coming in. THIS is a NO win for the O/O that takes care of his truck and expects to get well over the million mile mark out of that truck. :biggrin_25511:
     
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  11. truckerdave1970

    truckerdave1970 On Probation

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    This post is so typical of alot of posters on this forum. Let me explain, no there is too much! Let me sum it up!
    "I used to have a crappy job, but I paid my dues and now I have a GREAT job AND because I had to wade thru miles of fecal matter to get to my great job (AND B/c I still have an immature, bad attitude towards the industry,) I dont care about trucking's problems or if other drivers rights are being taken from them or if other companies are abusing other drivers, I GOT MY GOOD JOB! Everyone else can pay their dues just like I did! Now quit your complaining cuz that's just how trucking is supposed to be and if you dont like it, well, you are less of a man and you should just quit and go home and flip burgers."
    That seems to be a recurring theme amongst posters here!
    Let's not try to change the industry for the next guy coming down the pike! Let's not think of the "greater good"! After all, you got yours so SCREW EVERYONE ELSE! Sounds real mature and very unselfish, huh???
    Sorry if I offended anyone, but, honestly, if you ARE offended, maybe you should take a long, hard, and HONEST look at your motives and attitudes. I just might be right. Doesnt everyone deserve to be treated fairly, with respect, and compensated for ALL the work they do? Aren't changes to driver pay, lifestyle and treatment long overdue? We dont drive trucks from the 1970's (most of us dont anyway), why is it so wrong to be treated better than drivers from the '70's?
     
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