Registration for Intrastate Hopper bottom trucking

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  1. BigBlueFreightshaker

    BigBlueFreightshaker Bobtail Member

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    I was going to drive for a local bulk carrier over the summer to pay for my college tuition, but I am unable to due to their insurance's stipulation against hiring drivers under 23. So I talked to my farm's insurance provider and they had no problems covering me if I decided to operate my own company. The problem is that I cant find what exactly I need in terms of registration. I've read that South Dakota intrastate carriers don't need:
    a MC number
    a DOT number
    or IFTA tags
    but instead only need registration that is the correct weight of the truck. My question is whether or not this list is accurate or if it will get me arrested ;)
    I already have a truck, trailers, and loads lined up from the aforementioned carrier. I also have two summers worth of non-commercial trucking under my belt.
    Any help is appreciated
     
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  3. Last Call

    Last Call Road Train Member

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    The fore mentioned carrier that has the loads your wanting to haul.. Are they just giving you those loads or they acting as a broker ?
     
  4. BigBlueFreightshaker

    BigBlueFreightshaker Bobtail Member

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    The carrier is owned by a friend of my dad's who is helping me start out rn. From what we've worked out he'll work me into his small fleet of trucks for a small dispatching fee.
     
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  5. W923

    W923 Road Train Member

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    You probably need a South Dakota public carrier registration or whatever they call it
    I am pretty much the same type of operation in Illinois and that’s how it works for me.
    You might find that you need a dot number for some things like permits and insurance purposes idk if your looking at doing anything that would need permits
    if you get a dot registered as intrastate they pretty much leave you alone and there’s not much up keep or oversight or at least that’s my experience
    I started with a tandem dump truck hauling gravel or really anything that could fit and dump out now I move quite a bit of local osow equipment
     
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  6. BigBlueFreightshaker

    BigBlueFreightshaker Bobtail Member

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    ok thanks. If I go to my county's courthouse would they know? Or do I have to talk to someone from the SDDOT?
     
  7. Last Call

    Last Call Road Train Member

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    Well this is just my opinion.. and you get get what you pay for with free advice.. but here in Iowa...it would be the same as what you stated .. IF.. your gonna run Ag Exmept.. I question what would happen if you had a accident or if there was a audit.. what about cargo insurance do you have that ?
    I would think that company that is going to dispatch you would be able to answer your question
    In my opinion the dispatching fee puts you in a gray area.. but Iam not a lawyer .. Iam way better at breaking the laws than abiding them
    Hopefully someone else will chime in maybe @Long FLD can weigh in
     
  8. BigBlueFreightshaker

    BigBlueFreightshaker Bobtail Member

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    I am 99% sure I have cargo insurance, and am also 90% sure my liability coverage is well above the minimum, but its been a hot minute since I talked to them. The other company and I still have to work out a couple things to make sure everything turns out legal in that department. Other than that I will probably be Ag Exempt 95% of the time, well within paper log range if not.
    Thanks for the input!
     
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  9. W923

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    I am not the smartest about rules and regulations but I highly doubt your going to be ag exempt from anything if your hauling for some else.
    In Illinois you can’t use farm plates for what you want to do you need some type of commercial plate we have a mileage limit plate here that generally works well for me and if you run mechanical trucks and are a little clever it can be stretched a little I am not recommending that but….
    I don’t know where to tell you to find the information but I agree that whoever your working with should know. I wouldn’t think you would need logs. Thinking about it you might need a dot number depending on where your delivering to. We need one for rain yards and river terminals but not for other places. You may be able to get out of cargo insurance but make sure you can take care of it if something happens and your probably ok on liability…but don’t take my word for it.
     
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  10. BigBlueFreightshaker

    BigBlueFreightshaker Bobtail Member

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    I guess I meant E-Log exempt instead of Ag Exempt, and I am getting commercial plates around May-ish
    Thanks!
     
  11. BigBlueFreightshaker

    BigBlueFreightshaker Bobtail Member

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    Thank you! As much as I've looked I've never seen that page... guess I wasn't looking hard enough
     
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