Tarp pay question

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by basedinMN_, May 6, 2022.

  1. pavrom

    pavrom Road Train Member

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    ...i was about to say ... $215 for 8-9hour
    McDonald's starting pay $18 ....you must be kidding
     
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  3. ProfessionalNoticer

    ProfessionalNoticer Road Train Member

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    You're getting screwed whether you tarp or not, OP.
     
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  4. CAXPT

    CAXPT Road Train Member

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    You actually have several ways of looking at this.

    1. Mileage pay -
    $215.00 / 300 miles = $0.72 mile cpm (Loaded and empty miles)
    $215.00 / 150 miles = $1.43 mile cpm (Loaded mile)​
    2. Hourly pay -
    $215.00 / 8 hrs = $26.885‬ hr No tarp
    $215.00 / 9 hrs = $23.88 hr Tarp
    $215.00 / 10 hrs = $21.50 hr Tarp​
    3. Time -
    300 miles / 65mph = 4.62 hrs driving
    300 miles/ 55mph = 5.45 hrs driving
    300 miles/ 45mph = 6.66 hrs driving

    8 hrs - 4.62 hrs = 3.38 hrs
    9 hrs - 4.62 hrs = 4.38 hrs
    10 hrs - 4.62 hrs = 5.38 hrs

    8 hrs - 5.45 hrs = 2.55 hrs
    9 hrs - 5.45 hrs = 3.55 hrs
    10 hrs - 5.45 hrs = 4.55 hrs

    8 hrs - 6.66 hrs = 1.34 hrs
    9 hrs - 6.66 hrs = 2.34 hrs
    10 hrs - 6.66 hrs = 3.34 hrs​
    You have to look at the money you make in context to what system of measure you want to compare it.
    But be careful, you may find out you're over paid. :)
    For instance, you said you do a run, 150 miles one way, 300 mile round trip, I'm guessing...empty. So.... it should take you 4.62 hours to drive at 65 miles an hour, and it takes you approx 3.38 hours to secure, tarp, untarp, secure equipment. That's based on an 8 hour day, if it takes you 9-10 hours, then either you're driving slower, perhaps as an oversize and on side slower roads, or you're dogging it. :)

    Now you can compare apples and oranges. Mind you, 8 years ago, I was driving for .38 cpm, loaded or empty. Until the recent inflation problem brought about in the last 2 years, you were making double of what I made 8 years ago, and it was worth more until the recent inflation killed our blue collar gains in liviing wages increase.

    So my advice, is keep your head down, do your job, save your money and then you can buy your own truck, run your own business and negotiate what you consider fair compensation, and deal with all the regulations that your boss and company do. :) The alternative, is losing the contract and the work and the job. Remember you're making:
    $215.00 day, X 5 = $1,075.00 week - $4,300.00 month - $51,600 year Presumption, Company Driver
    ....this is pre-tax...I'm not even going to open that can of worms....it's the bane of working people to be fleeced for being productive.
    If you're O/O, L/O or god forbid, 1099..then you might have a gripe..but otherwise, save what you can, it's going to get rough and work as long as you can. :)
     
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  5. basedinMN_

    basedinMN_ Medium Load Member

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    I am a company driver, paid percentage.
    Rate minus fuel surcharge. I get 34.75% of what's leftover. So for this account the rate is something like $860, for 150 miles. About $5.75/mi. We deadhead back because we stay busy enough running our own stuff. Plus, there isn't any freight where this customer is.
     
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  6. bumper Jack

    bumper Jack Heavy Load Member

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    Personally I think the company needs to up their rates. They need to be in the 12-15 range plus fsc, plus permits. Then tarp every load. Plus it shouldn’t take more than 30 minutes to tarp plate steel
     
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  7. basedinMN_

    basedinMN_ Medium Load Member

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    300 miles and 8 hours is a pretty light day for any of us. I don't feel screwed when it's not tarped. But, you know how it is throwing tarps in freezing temps or the rain, often the wind. And because you hit the road later then you get there 45 minutes before lunch break and so you end up sitting through that... What would have been a light day is now a mediocre day.

    I'm thinking I will take it up with my boss. Every so often there are conflicts between drivers who arrive with untarped loads and forklift guys who say it should have been tarped. Every year this happens. It seems like we would be liable for any damage to the product, but so far the customer has just written off those wasted plates without involving us.

    I'd like to find out how much those write offs cost the customer, let's say two loads per year have to be trashed due to chemical damage. Each load is $50k worth of steel. I'm sure they can use accounting so they don't eat all $100k in losses. Call it $25k in actual product loss due to damage. In my mind that gives us about $20k worth of bargaining power to negotiate, in writing, a tarp policy where 100% of loads are tarped, but the rate goes up $20k per year.

    I just don't know if I can get my boss to look at it that way or to want to ask the customer exactly how much he writes off every year because of damaged plates that we bring him.
     
  8. bumper Jack

    bumper Jack Heavy Load Member

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    What would it take to make you happy tarping?
     
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  9. GYPSY65

    GYPSY65 Road Train Member

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    I agree
    That per mile rate looks good to me but for a load from NY to CA
    Not down the street

    Those short runs need to pay a lot more and not by the mile but by the load

    I wouldn’t ride as a passenger for that but that’s my personal opinion
    And the pay would be different if you live on the Canadian border or some super small town
     
  10. basedinMN_

    basedinMN_ Medium Load Member

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    $60
     
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  11. God prefers Diesels

    God prefers Diesels Road Train Member

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    I have no idea how much truck drivers make, and it's not up to me to dictate what is good money.
     
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