the unnecessary usage of j-brakes, why????

Discussion in 'Questions To Truckers From The General Public' started by ivanhoe, Jan 12, 2006.

  1. Longhood379

    Longhood379 Medium Load Member

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    Yup amazing how flatlanders know about drivin the rock piles isn't it??????
    We should get kyoto points for jaking
    You used to be able to get a brake saver along with jakes on 3406Es not that long ago
     
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  3. runningman0661

    runningman0661 Road Train Member

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    You gotta love the idiots that drive around on flat groung with there Jakes wide open. I guess they think there "cool", but the first though that comes to my mind is "idiot"
     
  4. brinkj23

    brinkj23 "Asphalt Cowboy"

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    Yep, like the one time crusing across iowa on the big road. This super trucker with a pete and must've been like 10" pipes but they were almost pinched shut at the top. He comes flying up the hammer lane and get next to me and cackles his jakes at me an stares at me then tears off going about 90. All I could think of was ok... what an idiot.
     
  5. Randall

    Randall Light Load Member

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    I think he was probly sayin you and your freightliner, or volvo, LOL, can kiss my #####!!! LOL, He was funin you.. Straight pipes and Jakes are awsome!!! Those "drivers" that don't like them.......hmmmm.......Must be those professionals, cause they sure AINT Truckers!!!! I don't get it, if you don't like trucks and how they sound, why are you driving one???? For the record, I'd rather be called a "Super Trucker" than a "Professional driver" any day.. Picked that "Super Trucker" crap up in a drivin school somewhere didnt ya!!!LOL
     
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  6. brinkj23

    brinkj23 "Asphalt Cowboy"

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    Yeah I was in a pos company freightshaker so I know he was funin me, but still why would he waste his fuel and slow way down just to make a funny then tear off like a maniac. I for one love the sound of jakes and loud exhaust, used to live in a valley with a main hwy in my backyard with a big downhill grade an I would leave the windows open so I could hear em. My jake is always on in my concrete mixer and I do all city driving, and I dont see any reason not to have it on especially hauling a load that will shift in a hurry if you get on the brakes right away.
     
  7. runningman0661

    runningman0661 Road Train Member

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    Well that about says it all there Billy Big Rigger, I would much rather be considered a professional any day I have 1.2 million safe miles with no accidents or moving violations. You use the word professional like its a four letter word. I don't have an issue with jakes, but there is no reason to drive on flatland or in a freakin truckstop parking lot with them on. So you go get'em big boy.
     
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  8. Sad_Panda

    Sad_Panda Road Train Member

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    It doesn't.

    A modern diesel shuts the fuel off if the engine is braking, the fastest way to shut off the engine brake is to barely push in the fuel. While you aren't giving any fuel to the engine, you have opened the switch on the pedal to shut the engine brake off.

    I haven't read so many old wives tales as I have in this thread. Let's all add a gallon of gas to 50 gallons of diesel and use vise-grips on the return fuel lines like the old days.

    And would you people stop calling them Jakes, the correct, blanket term is engine brake. There isn't any problem at all with a modern engine using a engine brake on flat ground, down hills, sideways or even at grandma's house. All the complaints I see here are uncorked engine brake complaints.

    And if you people knew how to use 'em right, we wouldn't have that completely stupid Monteagle Grade issue. I've seen longer downhills on a hotwheels track, but no, we have to pull off the road, stop, wait for the road to clean and hobble down the path with our four ways on and a person on horse leading us, shooting off flares every five feet.
     
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  9. Sad_Panda

    Sad_Panda Road Train Member

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    Yeah, you can still get brake savers on some trucks. Problem I see now is that they are trying to add more weight to trucks (97,000 pounds, only adding one axle to the trailer) and calling it good. 97,000 pounds is almost the 105,000 pounds that a PNW Heavyhaul does, and they add one axle to the tractor and two to the trailer.

    We will do almost the same weight but without the added axles and brake saver and my guess is a denutted 400 horse ISX and a 9 speed.

    Most people don't think about it, but you can safely get off the interstate, engine brake down through the gears and only use the service brake for the last final slowdown before a stopsign or yield.
     
  10. brinkj23

    brinkj23 "Asphalt Cowboy"

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    On most interstates everyone should be able to do this, but i've seen some exits (Texas mostly) that are very short and sharp exit ramps right to a stop sign or right into the flow of traffic where people dont like to follow the yield signs. But I agree most the time when exiting the interstate I would use the jakes(aka Jacobs Brake) and only use the service brakes when getting to the end at the stop sign. The only places I dont see the need for jake brakes is in a truck stop at any time of day, if you need a jake going 10mph through a parking lot then you're not all there upstairs or like being obnoxious and make noise especially at 3am.
     
  11. Bogey

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    though I found Randalls post funny, I don't think he would actually think He's "Cool" pulling through the truckstop at 3am spoutin' his jake mouth. I'd like to think he's got SOME Cooth. He's also still in an old longhood, which I like the look of, but in today's age MPG's and efficiency is making more money. I'm gettin' into trucking to with THAT as my main goal. Not rumblin' my Jacobs next to runningman or brinkj23. Unless their sleeping, Being inexperienced though, I hope I ain't the one in front of Panda, " shootin off flairs every 5'." I ain't starting in this to piss truckers off like it seemed I did while pulling FEMA campers to the POST Katrina Gulf. We didn't have to keep logs and bigriggers hated us for it, it seemed. But it was that experience that got me to want "the road" again.
     
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