So Brett, I took her out on the highway for a spin today. At 65 mph, I was at exactly 1400 rpm like you said. So I have a question now because something seemed weird.
I had it in the last gear (8th or 12th whatever you prefer) with the splitter BACK (direct?). Since I was doing 65, I wanted to go into overdrive (13th) to drop the rpm. So I pushed the splitter forward (into overdrive?) and let off the throttle. So the funny thing is, when I hit the throttle again, it felt like a DOWNSHIFT. The rpm went higher and the speed lowered. This threw me for a loop. I thought the opposite was supposed to happen. Has this happened to you? Is this normal?
Also, you mentioned in an earlier post to get rid of "vgt". What is that? You mean delete the turbo charger?
Re-learning to shift a 13-speed EF
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The vgt is variable geometry turbo. A lot guys go back to the old style after a delete but I'd leave it if it's not giving you any trouble. Better spool up on the low endAnother Canadian driver and gekko1323 Thank this. -
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Good morning fellas. A lot of you were right. This tranny is very easy to work with. The floating is very forgiving. I'm having an issue though. I am driving it like a 9-speed and only using the splitter on the last gear. However, when I move the splitter forward (to get into 13th), the engine reacts like it's DOWNSHIFTING. Rpm go up, road speed drops. I don't get it. I was doing 65 at 1400 rpm when I started the split. Any insight will be appreciated.
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Now take a regular turbo with no VGT. It's got a fixed size exhaust housing. The smaller the inside is, the harder the engine can drive the turbo (faster spool up). But smaller also means higher exhaust temps, higher drive pressure (hard on head gaskets). So you want a smaller inside so the turbo gets up to speed faster (spool up), but it sure would be nice to have a larger inside for normal cruising, and long pulls, right?
Enter VGT. It's got vanes inside the exhaust section of the turbo that can make it seem small when you need to build boost quickly (like leaving a stop light), and then the vanes open up and it acts like a big turbo once you have sufficient boost pressure.
Ever watch your boost gauge from a dead stop? It starts building boost kind of slow, then all the sudden it just takes off? VGT is a way to make it spool faster right off the bat.
It also has other uses. Helps warm up your engine faster in the morning. Helps your Jakes work ten times better. It can even be used as a full on exhaust brake on a pickup. It adds some complexity to a turbo, and a lot of cost, but it's a great invention.Brettj3876, gekko1323 and Another Canadian driver Thank this. -
I want to add something tangential. The turbo actuator and the vanes that it moves..
The vanes can be easily damaged by very high temperatures.
The actuator won't be able to move them anymore and a fault code will be logged.
There is a solution to this issue. It's called a Turbo blanket. I strongly recommend it's use.
Why Use A Turbo Blanket?
Here is turbo blanket for a Holset VGT:
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Water or water-methanol mix up to 50% can be used in the intake manifold.
A molecule of water vaporized by high temp increases
it's volume by 1800% while lowering the temp around it.
A molecule of methanol burns generating more power than just diesel.
A 2-3% ratio (water/diesel mix gets excellent results).
It should be limited to hill climbing when temperature start climbing too.
Banks in CA did a lot of research and is recognized in the industry.
Disclaimer: I do not extract any benefit recommending this solution.
I'm not affiliated with any company that sell any water injection devices.
I saw it applied with good results. The engine has to be in perfect running condition, though.
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