A truck I own was converted to hub pilot from budd before I bought it. Yesterday I needed to do some brake work and when I tore it down all 4 drives have budd rims on the inside and hp rims on the outside. The studs and nuts are hp and the hubs have the ridges to support the rims like a normal hp setup. I guess it’s ok, obviously it’s been this way for a while.
Anyone seen this before?
Budd/ hub pilot mixup
Discussion in 'Heavy Duty Diesel Truck Mechanics Forum' started by W923, Aug 3, 2022.
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If the center of the inside wheel rim fits close on the hub I can see that working OK.spsauerland, Rideandrepair and AModelCat Thank this. -
They do fit nicely.
I can see machine marks like a lathe would leave in the pilot diameter.
I would say there pretty new rims and about bet there made on the same setup as the hp rims just drilled differently.
It seems to have worked fine for 50-60 percent of a set of tires or maybe more so I was thinking about leaving it alone at least until the next tire change -
Never seen that. Can you post some pics of the "machine marks"?
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Problem your gonna have is enough pinch pressure to keep the inside from slipping fore and aft in the holes. Doesn’t seem like much but after enough of it you could get a set studs to sheer. If it was mine I would look to be sure that the studs do not have any marks and go ahead and put hub pilot wheels on it. Just because it hasn’t happened yet does not mean it can’t or won’t
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Stud pilots have a much larger lug diameter than a hub pilot. Sounds to me like they’re just, “sandwiched” in there. This may fall under, “don’t try this at home”.
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The holes in the rim are larger but the inner stud on dual wheel axles is 3/4 and hp is 22mm or approximately 7/8
And yes there just sandwiched between the outer hp rim and the hubOxbow Thanks this. -
At this point there’s no smashed threads or indication that they’re moving back and forth on this truck but I don’t think it’s the best idea. -
This is gonna hurt but it’s truth guys like you have no business working on their own trucks. Experience is one thing common sense is another.AModelCat, Roger McG, spsauerland and 2 others Thank this. -
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