####ed up, now what?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Mars Ultor, Dec 1, 2022.

  1. TallJoe

    TallJoe Road Train Member

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    I am just curious...if a CDL holder smokes a joint...

    Is the act unconditionally illegal or...

    Does it become illegal only if it is within the time frame of the body still containing the detectable toxic elements and the CDL holder operates the CMV before the toxins are gone?

    In other words, if I decided to try some cannabis products and then wait for as long as it takes for my body to leave no trace before getting back to the truck, would the act of consumption of cannabis be still illegal in terms of FMCSA rules...e.g. if they found out about it, or as long as you drive while your body does not contain toxins, it doesn't matter?
     
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  3. Lonesome

    Lonesome Mr. Sarcasm

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    Yeah, dude.......like totally unfair.....
     
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  4. reeferwrencher

    reeferwrencher Medium Load Member

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    I dont smoke weed
     
  5. The Green Mountain

    The Green Mountain Light Load Member

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    Some folks...... You just gotta hand 'em the shovel and let 'em keep digging. They'll find it eventually.
     
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  6. loudtom

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    May an employer notify a driver of his/her selection for a random controlled substances test while the driver is in an off-duty status? | FMCSA.

    It looks like there's nothing to prevent a company or consortium from requesting a drug test while someone is off duty. It looks like the only good way to get around it is to quit and get rehired.
     
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  7. TallJoe

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    So, that's all right.
    Let's say that a CDL holder has decided to legally smoke pot at the time of his friends reunion - for example, during a week long camp in wilderness. So, he quits and is no longer a subject of a drug testing from his company. He indulges a little bit, then waits 30 days or however long it takes for his body to leave no trace (are there personal test kits like that available so it stays confidential?) and only then gets rehired. This seems awkward and perhaps only a few can afford such a prolonged vacation but, practically, it should work. Yet, I wonder, if doing something like that, is still considered illegal, from the angle of FMCSA.
     
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  8. loudtom

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    FMCSA doesn't care, as long as you're not employed in a CDL position. I do think they should not accept hair follicle tests, though. It looks like someone can fail a hair test, then take urine tests to return to duty, but then still be able to fail a hair test but it's suddenly ok to work now after the whole ordeal.
     
  9. Lonesome

    Lonesome Mr. Sarcasm

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    Never said ya did....
     
  10. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    EVERY driver BEFORE they get a CDL is informed they will be drug tested before they drive, randomly after they get a license, and post-accident. How much more fair than that can you want anyone to behave?
     
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  11. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    "it's JUST a little weed" but it may require me to be unemployed for 30 plus days after use, buy a commercial drug test kit, and go to law school to understand what "subject to pre-hire testing, random testing, post accident testing" means. For just a little weed it sure seems FAR MORE important than a steady job, paying your bills, maybe even having a place to live for some drug users. If you never use it, you don't have to ever worry about all of the above.
     
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