What to do in this situation?

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  1. ducnut

    ducnut Road Train Member

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    The rubber mats some locations put under rolls is what tripped him up. Without rubber mats, the rolls would’ve just slid forward. It’s an unfortunate circumstance, for sure.
     
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  3. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    Then assuming for the moment you aren’t pulling a slick side, why not simply nose load 4 rolls and strap them, put up a couple load bars, and then tail load the other 4 and strap them?
     
  4. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

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    Saw a Schneider on one of the really steep ramps along US 151 in the Driftless. I assumed he stopped to water a tire, and was a touch careless with the clutch when he tried to get going.

    The back doors looked like a bomb opened them, and several rolls on the ground, one of them way behind the truck down in the ditch. Just blind luck it didn't roll out onto the highway.
     
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  5. ducnut

    ducnut Road Train Member

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    Drivers usually aren’t involved in the loading process; it’s drop and hook.

    With our account, the loaders have boxes of straps to use with our trailers. They just don’t use them on rolls. However, on outbound loads of bundles, they do. And, other carriers DO NOT have straps in their trailers. I think, the loaders just don’t care and are simply going through the process. As previously mentioned, these people are so beat down, from working in a miserable environment. I’ve been to several different locations of theirs and it seems the same with everyone. They’re our worst account and cost more drivers than the rest of our company, combined. They’re the hardest miles I’ve had to earn, because it’s two, multi-stop loads per day.

    Load bars would just get pushed out, by sliding rolls. As I previously mentioned, I wonder if using straps would pull the sides of the trailer inward, if rolls were to slide forward? There just isn’t much strength in dry van walls.
     
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  6. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    That’s why my suggestion involves the straps on the trailing side. I don’t see them sliding back.

    If the bars are strategically placed where the first roll can loaded against it with no room to move and build kinetic energy in a panic stop, do you believe that also wouldn’t work?

    How many linear feet of space does a load of 8 of these take up?
     
  7. ducnut

    ducnut Road Train Member

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    I could see e-track load bars working, but, not the expandable type most commonly seen in trucking.
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    I believe, the rolls are ~5’ diameter, because they’re staggered and overlap.

    This is the caliber of loader I’m talking about, at these places. Not even close to fitting. Brand new trailer. Just jam it up in there. Of course, it hit the floor on the way to my next stop.
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  8. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    Those expandable ones are terrible IMHO and tend to fall out on the first bump.

    I can see that sort of thing happening in the LTL world. Our dock hands only care about finding ways to get out of having to actually do anything. But getting product loaded like that right from the shipper is a sin. You’re certainly right to take pictures before you leave at a minimum.
     
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  9. Coolbreezin

    Coolbreezin Medium Load Member

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    I had a similar situation. My dispatcher sent a Brutus to drag the rolls back. It took a while as I had to keep getting reweighed.
    In your situation, mount a board at the rear edge of the roll and hook the strap over the top of the roll and pull. Another driver mentioned the damage to the product, excellent point.
     
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