STOP RUNNING CHEAP FREIGHT!!

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Bret1984, Oct 25, 2024.

  1. Opus

    Opus Road Train Member

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    Exactly. What business is it of yours what the broker makes? Or for that matter, what the shipper makes on the shipment? Either it works for you or it doesn't. You run your business, and they will run theirs.
     
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  3. NorthEastTrucker

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    Well, I'm sure he didn't know or would of thought it went for $4k. I'm sure if he knew that he wouldn't of taken or negotiating a better rate. You can say 'the deception of not knowing in his case.

    For him, I'm sure it the business of maximizing his profit margin considering he is doing 90% of the physical work of the load going from one place to the next.
     
  4. Ruthless

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    You ever bid direct work?
     
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  5. NorthEastTrucker

    NorthEastTrucker Heavy Load Member

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    I'm order of a lie working, some truth has to be within that lie. I don't believe he is lying.
     
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  6. Lyle H

    Lyle H Road Train Member

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    He agreed to 1600.00
    What if I would have negotiated to do it for 1700.00?
    Would he have thought I was making too much?
    Am I the greedy one?
    Where do you draw the line?
    Do you want to cap my profits too?
     
  7. NorthEastTrucker

    NorthEastTrucker Heavy Load Member

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    My last load a week before the holidays. The reception was good, worked and rewarding.
     
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  8. NorthEastTrucker

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    https://www.overdriveonline.com/bus...e-freight-brokers-really-making-from-truckers

    Any random website might say, a 'Broker's' standard rates average between 15% to 30%. Those who are Brokers will argue that they have tons of overhead, whiles some will look for any excuse to defend that their piece of the pie covering their overhead expenses is 35% to whatever they feel. Probably why many smaller carriers hope that transparency occurs with the FMCSA FMCSA proposes new rules on broker transparency law takes into affect a horse term that's been beaten down for a while now. Basically, a carrier when negotiating a rate should have their own set prices (usually cost per mile) that keeps them in the green. Currently, that the only control there is for the carrier.
     
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  9. Long FLD

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    How did you bid it without knowing the maximum the business would pay you? Sort of the same concept as being fine with $1600 but then being upset that it paid more.
     
  10. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    Brokers will have 48 hours to comply with the request for information from the carrier. So the load will still move for a rate the carrier is fine with. It’s not like transparency will be used as a negotiating tool. And what are the chances of a truck being back in the same area trying to get the same load from the same broker again and then on top of that negotiating a higher rate from the broker?
     
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  11. Ruthless

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    When you start to bid against brokers, you’ll quickly find that high percentage for them is not actually that common.
    When I bid against brokers they are generally 40-50% lower than my bid as a carrier; then they post them on the board for 15% less than they bid the shipper.




    Also, as FLD pointed out: you’re bidding or accepting based on what you can do it profitably for, not how much someone else has in it for profit.
     
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