Becoming an O/O after SAP

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by PoliRath, Jun 28, 2025.

  1. PoliRath

    PoliRath Bobtail Member

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    Hey, I've been trucking for 5 years now, but about 3 weeks ago I was on vacation and smoked some weed. When I got back to work I got a random and long story short I got fired and am currently going thru the return to duty process. I'm in a pretty fortunate situation that my house is paid off and I have about 80 grand saved up.

    I did 2 years OTR at Werner and 3 at FedEx Freight. I got doubles triples tanker and hazmat. I always told myself if I was going to go back over the road again I'd want it to be on my own terms and I'm willing to work hard.

    I know this won't be easy especially with the way the market has been these past few years, but since I have the money I've been thinking going thru the consortium and getting my own truck may be a better path to employment.

    My bachelor's in computer science isn't getting anywhere lol. So, I was hoping there might be someone out there with a similar experience who could give me some advice. And look before someone says I'm some drug addled freak, if I continue to truck I will never smoke again. It was not worth it and a huge mistake on my part. I think it'd be better if they just mouth swabbed for weed but my opinion doesn't matter. I've never gotten behind the wheel high, I smoked during my off time on special occasions.
     
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  3. PoliRath

    PoliRath Bobtail Member

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    I've never had an accident or anything like that btw
     
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  4. Concorde

    Concorde Road Train Member

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    No actual experience with what you’re dealing with but..

    Going o/o own authority is a great idea at first glance. Problem is finding an insurance carrier that will insure you. Clear that tall hurdle then decide if you can handle all of what goes with an authority and if you can be profitable.

    If I were in your shoes I would definitely look into being my own boss or just exit the industry.
     
  5. 7speed

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    Trucking over using a computer science degree? A quick google search and found this from indeed.
    I think I need to get a degree and quit!

    20 high-paying computer science jobs
    Whether you want to work in software engineering, computer programming or web development, your degree can help prepare you for numerous high-paying computer science jobs. Here are 20 jobs for computer science majors with salaries that are higher than the national average for all jobs:For the most up-to-date salary information from Indeed, visit indeed.com/salaries.
    1. Network administrator
    National average salary:$79,556 per year
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    National average salary: $79,615 per year
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    National average salary: $83,226 per year
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    National average salary: $60,773 per year
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    National average salary: $91,532 per year
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    National average salary: $90,077 per year
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    National average salary: $100,919 per year
    8. .NET developer
    National average salary: $122,974 per year
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    National average salary: $109,504 per year
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    National average salary: $125,107 per year
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    National average salary: $99,506 per year
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    National average salary: $91,841 per year
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    National average salary: $105,459 per year
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  6. Knightcrawler

    Knightcrawler Road Train Member

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    I was a programmer from the time I got off active duty in 78 until I got my CDL in 84 (and did some things after that for a few years). My son is a network something or other (something to do with hardware) right now. Yes, it pays more. I wouldnt go back, and he hates his job.

    Heh, if you are serious about buying a truck, send me a PM. Im almost 69 and ready to hang this up.
     
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  7. Accidental Trucker

    Accidental Trucker Road Train Member

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    IT hiring has been flat. That world is a lot like trucking as far as boom and bust. Everybody, their uncle and their dog started offering “IT courses”, pumping out various certificate holders. AI is already doing a lot of coding. On top of that a Bachelors in computer science without several certificates is like a class B CDL: you’ve got a piece of paper but you can’t do much with it.
     
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    Knightcrawler Road Train Member

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    Thats nothing new. The last programming job I applied to I had 6 years experience and I didnt have enough experience for their "entry level" job.
     
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  9. Big Road Skateboard

    Big Road Skateboard Road Train Member

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    Maybe someone else would have better knowledge, but will insurance companies even know about SAP?

    I've had commercial vehicle policies for 21 years, and drug test results have never even been mentioned by the providers.

    Do they have access to that info? Do they even look?

    I
     
  10. Concorde

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    Honestly I really don’t know.. I’m guilty of repeating what has been said over and over.

    Going to bust out my Webb master skilz now :)
     
  11. Concorde

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    Okay, according to AI the short answer is no..unless it is tied to their csa score which the insurance companies check.



    Insurance companies do
    not have access to the FMCSA Clearinghouse and cannot directly see a driver's failed drug test results through that database.
    Here's why and what it means:
    • Clearinghouse Access is Restricted: The FMCSA Clearinghouse is a secure database with controlled access. Only authorized users like employers, medical review officers (MROs), substance abuse professionals (SAPs), and consortia/third-party administrators (C/TPAs) can register and access the Clearinghouse for designated purposes.
    • Purpose of the Clearinghouse: The Clearinghouse was created to improve safety on the nation's roads by ensuring that CDL drivers with drug and alcohol violations complete the required return-to-duty process before returning to safety-sensitive functions.
    • Privacy Protections: The system is designed with strict privacy controls to protect driver information. FMCSA only shares detailed information with prospective or current employers with the driver's consent.
    • Employer Queries: Employers are required to query the Clearinghouse to check for drug and alcohol violations for new and existing drivers. They must obtain consent from the driver to do so.
    • Impact on CSA Scores: While insurance companies can't access the Clearinghouse, a failed drug test can impact an insurance company's decision indirectly. Violations negatively affect a driver's Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA) score, which insurance providers often review when setting premiums.
    In summary: A failed FMCSA drug test won't appear on an insurance company's background check of the driver, but it may affect their insurability or premium rates through the driver's CSA score. “
     
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