I agree with brsims, drop this loser ASAP. Sounds like I'm familiar with the company you're with. If it is, most of the trainers I ran into there leave alot to be desired, although there were a couple actually interested in training a new guy.
Just some of the stupid things I see
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§395.2 Definitions.
On duty time means all time from the time a driver begins to work or is required to be in readiness to work until the time the driver is relieved from work and all responsibility for performing work. On-duty time shall include:
(1) All time at a plant, terminal, facility, or other property of a motor carrier or shipper, or on any public property, waiting to be dispatched, unless the driver has been relieved from duty by the motor carrier;
(2) All time inspecting, servicing, or conditioning any commercial motor vehicle at any time;
(3) All driving time as defined in the term driving time;
(4) All time, other than driving time, in or upon any commercial motor vehicle except time spent resting in a sleeper berth;
(5) All time loading or unloading a commercial motor vehicle, supervising, or assisting in the loading or unloading, attending a commercial motor vehicle being loaded or unloaded, remaining in readiness to operate the commercial motor vehicle, or in giving or receiving receipts for shipments loaded or unloaded;
(6) All time repairing, obtaining assistance, or remaining in attendance upon a disabled commercial motor vehicle;
(7) All time spent providing a breath sample or urine specimen, including travel time to and from the collection site, in order to comply with the random, reasonable suspicion, post-accident, or follow-up testing required by part 382 of this subchapter when directed by a motor carrier;
(8) Performing any other work in the capacity, employ, or service of, a motor carrier; and
(9) Performing any compensated work for a person who is not a motor carrier.
Now for the intrepratations:
Question 8: If a driver trainer occasionally drives a CMV, thereby becoming a driver (regardless of whether he/she is paid for driving), must the driver record all non driving (training) time as on-duty (not driving)?
Guidance: Yes
Question 13: What is the duty status of a co-driver (truck)who is riding seated next to the driver?
Guidance: On-duty (not driving).
Sounds like the guys already nailed the question and gave you good answers. Take care and good luck.Panhandle flash, bullhaulerswife, The Challenger and 3 others Thank this. -
Lets say the rookie only wanted to drive for 8 hrs the trainer still has a lot of hrs left for him to run a lot more than 200 miles.outerspacehillbilly Thanks this. -
If this "trainer" wants to max out his miles...and train of course...why not just perch his butt on the bunk and watch from the middle...sleep and watch...after the first week, when I was comfortable with my students, that is how I maxed out the miles for my pay...and was available for questions or comments while student was driving...plus I would pop in a movie and such....covers the sleeper part of the log, gets attention to the student, and I get my rest....it isn't rocket science...but I was smart enough to know if I was tired I slept...student the same!
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y'know.. it's been a couple years since I went out with a trainer... and he did much the same thing. After the first few days - when he became moderately sure I'd not run over a tree or something - he spent most of his time lounging in the sleeper. He was in the center, facing forward - and spending a LOT of quality time on the phone.
I'll give him this, though - he was paying attention. When he saw something that needed addressing, he leaned forward and worked me through it.
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Is that approach following the letter of the law?
yup, sure is
Is it following the intent of the law?????
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The EXPECTATION by the law writers is that adequate sleep time is taken, so as to try and ensure safety on the roads by the drivers.
I was more referring to the actions of the "trainer" in trying to "train" from the sleeper.dieselbear Thanks this. -
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