C.R. England and Sons, Inc. - West Valley, Ut.

That's the nature of the beast.

 

America isn't like any other country, we have already pointed out that all men are created equal...that was in the 1800's, we have already pointed out, everyone has rights in this country and freedom. So when you come to America you shouldn't expect discrimination, its that simple...everyone is excepted anywhere in the U.S. As an American you are ensured equality.

 

The only way to stop it is to fight it. If you let it go it will continue and you will be more frustrated. There are some lawyers out there chomping at the bit for cases like this. It will be hard, been there done that.

Fight the good fight.

Mike

 

First post here

Wow!!! Thanks man. Tip, Mack -6 and all you. You guys rock! just saved me
. CRE called me this morning. I almost took the bait I'm not a Trucker yet
but it's good to know you guys look out for each other.

I had one question I wanted to ask If you will...
Is it hard to like get into a Union job like the Teamsters? If so what's the process and is it more
advantageous?

 

You're welcome, Bueno. Guys like you make it worth it, this website posting thing. Glad to hear you stayed out of the C.R. England spider web. Remember--the more a company bugs you about coming to drive for them, the farther you need to stay away from them. Apply this reasoning to ALL companies and you'll probably be fine. These days, if I myself were looking for a new trucking job, I'd take only those that required me to be put on a waiting list. I wouldn't accept any job that is any easier to get than this. I've learned the hard way, man.

It's not hard to get A job in a union, but it probably won't be THE job. I know at some union companies, you will have to prove your mettle by working on docks the first year. If you can overcome this obstacle, you demonstrate you are genuinely serious about driving and are worth the trouble to be added to the rolls as a driver. The company then allows you into the system, so to speak, and you then become a union driver.

This is is how it is at some, if not most, union companies. But I'm sure there are union companies that will hire you on as a driver right off the bat. These would be too "easy" for me, though.

 

muey bueno.

Seems there are many decent trucking companies to work for other than CRE. It seems CRE with it's school plan must get allot of new-bees, then comes the old shaft. A bottle of VAS they give out to smooth
things along when you first get there

 

At least maybe the federal courts might make England pay some of the money back that they stole from the owner operators and lease operators

 

And maybe the government will finally go in and bust CRE for its practices regarding the turnover scheme.

They hire a driver on who's a grad of its high-priced school (tuition that may have been footed by the government), treat him like crap so he'll quit, then replace him with yet another grad of its high-priced school (tuition that may have been footed by the government).

Not only this, but CRE should get busted for the tax breaks on its idle capital (lots full of empty cleaned-outs). Capital that is idle because their drivers quit. Drivers who quit because CRE mistreated them so they'd quit in order to make that capital idle in the first place.

 

I'm sure the government is well aware of the schemes in regard to schools, companies, and how the money flows...because they designed the system.

There are no tax breaks for idle equipment. There are no laws as to how much of a businesses equipment is allowed to be idle. If a truck never turns a mile, it can be considered an asset of the company, which means they can take deductions for the cost and depreciation of that truck. They are also taxed according to the realized value of it as well.

 

My wife and I got our CDL licenses through CRE, mainly because we wanted to train together as a team, and because we wanted to take our dog with us after getting a truck. We did the lease thing and ran 20k miles per month average on a dedicated Walmart fleet. We stayed with them 15 months terminating our lease early and received our whole maintenance escrow of $7800+ back in addition to our miles as ran. Our fleet had a weekly floor pay of 5000 miles so long as you were available to run. The lease payments were too high I now realize, but we made about $20k more in our first year than we would have as company drivers. Most ppl that drive for CRE are not prepared to run 6 weeks out or more to pay for their lease and have poor on-time performance thus get crappy loads. I agree with another poster that CRE hires a lot of welfare to work type people whom have never been successful at anything else prior to trucking which brings the image of the company down, but I have to say that CRE has good equipment overall, lots of freight, and will run you to death if you want to run, but you have to make it work.:biggrin100 (37):