Hours of service questions and answers

Has anyone herd what the new proposed hos may be if they change at all what kind of changes we can expect???

 

A hard kick to the crotch and an ankle monitor!

 

Haven't heard a word. Here's a link I found on Land Line:

http://www.landlinemag.com/Special_Reports/2010/July/070910-update.htm

 

You're not supposed to be calculating your line 3 time. You are supposed to be logging it as it happens. Just wanted to make that clear for any newbies. The advantage of logging it as it happens (besides being DOT compliant), is that you don't have to worry about screwing up your logs. However, drivers will continue to "tweak" their logs as long as they continue to not get paid for line 4 (working but not driving) time. OTR companies have been making drivers work for free for so long that even the drivers are OK with it.

 

I can see why so many drivers make a donation to the Man...

They used to issue a little DOT type handbook to every driver, at one time it was mandatory to have one in the truck.

That book kinda explained how you are suppose to do things, the green version of the book also included interpretations.

Spending a day or two studying that book, and learning fact-not rumor- can save you a lot of aggrevation.........

Almost nobody really knows the regulations that pertain to their job. If a driver just read that little book, over half the posts on this board would be non-existant.........

I feel they should bring that little book back..............

 

I'm totally lost here, whats with the 22 hour thing? 14+8=22? Oh wait I think I answered my own question, If I drive say 5.5 hours at the beginning of my 14 hour day, then take 8 but less than 10 hours break I count over 22 or portions over 8+14 for time less than 10 hours break.

Check it out the other day I drove about an hour to get unloaded took 2 hours I thought 'great I only have to take 8 hours later.' Got a plan but I had to go get it after only 6.5 hours in the sleeper. So I made my next break at 8 hours to be sure.

 

Wow, that's a complicated way to explain sleeper split.

You already know you have to take at least 8 hrs in the sleeper and no part of the split can be less than two hours. Which basically gives us the 8/2 split.

Things to remember: Neither the 8 nor the 2 resets your 11/14.

The 2 counts against your 14, the 8 does not.

The 8 only stops the clock. It does not reset it.

So: When figuring out how much time you legally have: If it's the 2 and you took an 8 previously, count all time on line 3 between your previous 8 and current 2, subtract that number from 11 and that's how much driving time you will have. Count all hours forward from your 8 including the 2 hrs you just took off, subtract that from 14 and that's how much overall time you have left to drive. You are allowed to be on line 4 past your 14, but not line 3.

If it's your 8 and you took a 2 previously, count up your line 3 hours forward from your 2 and subtract that from 11, you will have your available driving hours. Count all hours between the previous 2 and current 8, do not count either the 8 or the 2, subtract that number from 14 and you will have overall available hours.

Don't forget you have to comply with your 70 as well.

Again, you are allowed to be on line 4 past any of these hour requirements, but if you do go over on duty, you may not drive until your hours are back in compliance...that is, after a full 10 hours. Do everything you can to not be on duty past your hours. It just complicates things at scales where they happen to be training new officers.

Hopefully this helps.

 

In an article in "The Trucker", the new HOS are 8 hours per day, 40 hours per week, and NO 34 hour restart. I personally don't think this will fly. This is proposed by P.A.T.T. Parents Against Tired Truckers. People who know knothing about the trucking industry are trying to change the trucking industry. They haven't figured out yet that this will cause the number of trucks on the road to nearly double and the shipping costs will rise dramatically. If they want safer roads, they need to listen to the drivers' complaints about the people who drive cars and change clothes, read books, newspapers, etc, put on makeup, talk on cell phones, and text. Here we go again. . . .

 

If that's true, the roads will be safer with less fatigued drivers. We're used to working 14 hr days though and the pay cut will hurt.

 

Safer? No... unless you have some statistics proving driver fatigue is a major issue.

What you will have is a HUGELY more significant problem regarding parking. You'll have drivers that instead of getting proper rest will spend 12 hours in a casino and/or you'll have a lot more drivers busted for HOS violations (do you really think drivers are going to willingly spend 16 hours in some POS roadside pullout/rest stop?). And do you really think that drivers can afford to take up to a 43% pay cut (40 hrs. vs. 70 hrs.) (because if you think rates will increase to cover the shortfall you're dreaming)?

EDIT: My bad, it will actually be a 1/3 paycut since 1 week = 7 days and the current rules are 60/7... still too much.