Hours of service questions and answers

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by LogsRus, Oct 26, 2008.

  1. Powder Joints

    Powder Joints Subjective Prognosticator

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    What the reason for showing the 15 minute post trip, your only required to flag it you don;t need to deduct time for it.

    I flag pretrip on time deduction, when I fuel the truck I show 15 minutes and also flag reads Fuel / VI, I may also show additional VI's over the course of the day combined with loading and unloading. No big deal but your using a 1/2 hour a day that can legally be combined with other time deduction you have to show. Your hours are like money, gaurd how you spend them and they will last longer.
     
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  3. DickJones

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    Cause the company (and DOT) 'wants' to see 30 minutes of PTI. showing 15 pre and a 15 post, gives me my '30', but also saves me 15 min 'on paper' that dont eat up my 11/14 hr clock. I can drive right up to my 14 hr clock, park, pop the brakes, note the time then drop to line 4 and show 15 min. of post trip. Yeah, all i have to do is flag it....but this way, i still get in my 30 min. but saves me the time eating away at my 11/14. Cause you CAN be on line 4 "working" after your 11 and 14, and not be in violation. You just have to take a "10" before driving again. It still counts against your 70...just not against your 11/14.
     
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  4. outerspacehillbilly

    outerspacehillbilly "Instigator of the Legend"

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    As I said A COMBINED amount of 8.75 per day, 8.25 driving and .25 for pre and .25 for post trips. Then that allows you .25 every other day or every 3rd day for fuel time and still stay under your 70.
     
  5. DickJones

    DickJones Road Train Member

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    yes yes....overlooked that word. :biggrin_2556:
     
  6. Powder Joints

    Powder Joints Subjective Prognosticator

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    Your math does not work at all. Everything counts against you 11/14, once your day starts the 15/15 comes right out of your 14 and your 70. DOT requires you show a 15 minute time deduct. Your company is trying to cover there own butt....
     
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  7. Powder Joints

    Powder Joints Subjective Prognosticator

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    8.75 your kidding right, your happy with 475 miles a day. Really. Your joking right. If not your going broke. I log 600 mile almost every day and not run out of hours, But I do take a 34 as I wont work weekends. Thats whats keeping me from Indian River right now, we've agreed on most everything, but I want my weekends off and if that means passing on there job so be it.
     
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  8. DickJones

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    I'm not going broke. I dont have a car payment, house payment, no kids that i know of, and my cell/internet. Dunno who you work for, but obviously you have the luxury of being 'home weekends'. I can drive 1800mi a week, be home weekends, and make a $500+ paycheck. or i can stay out, drive 2700 and make a $800 check. do i have a problme driving 600 mi a day? no. but you cant log 600 mi in a 9 hr day unless u got a 70 mph truck. I'd rather run 400-500 a day, everyday, rather than 'run hard' for 13 hrs, log 650+ mi, then have a day where i run 150 or 200, then try to be 'cool' by hanging out in a driver lounge at a Petro where it smells like a locker room.

    I went a month getting weekends off (i run dedicated)...which was just fine, but i FELT like i was only getting a $300 paycheck. it FELT like i was ripping myself off. So i normally take every other weekend off, and make good money. Now before some super-hobby-trucker jumps on here and starts laughing at me, pretending they're better than me just because they make $800 on a single load.....don't forget, i dont have 2 yrs experience yet. Every place i've looked at to run local, wont even look at me till i get that mark. Now super hobby trucker might be happy in their past, jumping from company to company every 6 mo. till they found the right one....but i'm not like that. I'll eventually get a local gig, be home every night, and make $1000 a week. or i'll get my own truck....lease it on, take my dog with me, making better money than i am now....and still be happy.

    fact of the matter is....i dont give a flyin' J, what anybody thinks about my paycheck. there is only one person who has to like or dislike it. and if you think you're better than me because you have more bills than me, and make twice as much as me......all i can say is that i'm comfortable knowing i graduated high school. :biggrin_255:

    and you say you never run out of hours, but you take a 34. that is like saying "i've never lost a football game...because i always quit before the end of the games when i'm losing". you never run out of hours because you take a 34....you HAVE to take a 34.....or......................you would. obviously. but then again, we're not here measuring the size of our man-hood.....you obviously are.
     
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  9. Lilbit

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    You cannot go past your 14 just to do your inspections. Once that clock starts it doesn't stop, and you are done doing any work after the 14 hours. No if's, and's or but's about that one.
     
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  10. Powder Joints

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    First off nobody is attacking you, this forum is about assisting each other.

    1. We all set our own priorities, I have found opinions posted here are about helping or assisting each other, Not about candy coating or rubber stamping.

    2. We correct each other here but it is done as a matter to keep it close to correct. If you have a question about something I tell you such as combining your Pretrip/postrip/Vehicle Inspection we have people here that are experts such as Log's or dieselbear.

    You have to flag your pre/post trip in the appropriate place, but the time deduction can be taken in-conjunction with another activity such as fueling loading or unloading.

    Your company may require to flag 15 minute at the start and end of your day but that has nothing to do with DOT requirements, DOT will allow combining the activities.

    As to if you went to high school or not has nothing to do with anything.

    Someday you may need to make a living at what your doing at this point you want want to actually know how to get your truck down the road. Good Luck Stay Safe.

    By the way the way you get weekends off, is to set priorities, I have several questions I ask prospective employers, The Truck goes home with me, no slip seating. I don't work weekends, I have family plans. If they have a problem then I don't take the job I don't cause problems for them, they have there business to run just as I do mine.
     
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  11. lostNfound

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    Actually, you can work as many hours as you wish past the 14, just no driving until 10-hours rest. It is perfectly okay to do the post-trip inspection, fueling, repairs, loading, etc., past the 14th hour.

     
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