This was one of the worst companies when I started

Discussion in 'Swift' started by Tip, Jun 18, 2006.

  1. Dryver67

    Dryver67 Bobtail Member

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    I had the Displeasure of Being a Swifty-I was with MS carriers When Swift Bought them Out-Of Course They Portrayed It As A Merger(Only A Fool) Would Believe that-Immediately 300 Or more Drivers quit(MS Drivers)-i Guess They Knew What Was Comin-Fortunately, I was dedicated Runnin 15-20 Drops A Week At Doubletime And Knew How to Do A Comic Book To A Tee-I Was Allover The Northeast-there Is Nothing Like Driven right Down Broadway NYC At 1230 And Seein Some Guy With A Silver Glove On walking Like he Was Right Outta The Movie"Stayin Alive" Or being Out On Long Island With 10 Drops to make-then tryin To get The hell Outta There-
    The Thing That Used To Drive Me Nuts Was The Speed regulations-I remember There Trucks At-60-61 MPH And If You Went Over 66 For Any Reason That Was Grounds For Immediate Termination-They Had the DAm Dispatchers Runnin Weekly Speed reports On Every Driver--I was At 65(MS Speed) But If I Ever passed 72-I Could Be Fired Immediately......Ridiculous.

    I Put Up With It For A-Until They Decided To Screw us Up On Our Dedicated Account-Reduced Our Drop Pay From 15-Per To 10 citing Fuel costs-And Came Up With The Brilliant Idea Of tracking Our Stops Via QCom real Tight-Even If The Next Drop Is Only 10 Miles Away--I Said Screw That,And Got Out Real Quick After That:mcool:
     
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  3. Tip

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    Dryver, I heard 600 drivers quit MS that day Swift bought out Mike Stearns & Co.

    What a dark day that was for TL trucking. MS was a great company, although they ran mostly cab-overs back when I tried to get on with them (1995). Those guys wouldn't hire me because I quit Swift after only about 4 months, which made me work for them even more. I never got a chance, unfortunately. They got bought out a few years later by JerryCo.

    If I would have been working for MS when Swift bought them out, there would have been 601 drivers who would have quit that day.
     
  4. cruzer

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    This is what! Ive heard from many people' who know me! They say!
    Swift is a' bad company to' start with just to'..much of a..Corporate Giant! and with that gos' no Trainee Concern you are just a.Socail Security Number On A Tax Form! This is really sad as we all know!
    Cruzer
     
  5. trackjack

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    I am going to attend a swift schooling next month on the 11th of April in Troutdale Oregon. So, far I have heard alot of bad stuff bad about them, but I heard the same thing about the Army when I join in 1976. I end up retiring because I enjoy it so much. I really believe if you have right frame of mind you can last a year with anyone.
     
  6. Tip

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    TrackJack, the big problem you may run into is Swift may have a problem with YOU. Yeah, that's what I encountered at Swift. I, along with about five other guys from my (overpriced) trucking school hired on at Swifty, only to last anywhere from two weeks to about six months. We all were decent guys who did our jobs right, but Swift always tried to screw us out of our pay and bonuses with lame excuses. Yeah, it was always OUR fault when we had problems. Then we all went to other companies, acted exactly the same way, and had no problems.
     
  7. trackjack

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    Tip what terminal did you come out of with Swift? It seem like all the forums I have read the most problems are on the eastern part of the states. I haven't heard to many from the western part. Mangement that control the loads and the ones suppose take care of you if there no good it doesn't matter what company your in it will be hell. Believe I was in 2 bad company's in the service and it was hell for a year.
     
  8. Tip

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    Yeah, I was based back east, too. I ran out of the Richmond, Virginia terminal. What a croc that job turned out to be. That terminal was really the "dumping ground" for loads that were bound for places up NYC way. When I worked out of Richmond, my "home" became I-95 north. This is because more experienced drivers at Swift knew how to milk the system and would drop those northeast-bound loads at that terminal and haul ### back south or west. All those experienced drivers had to do was whine a little bit, and the newbie drivers, who knew no better, would have to finish those runs. I even had to go into Manhattan once to yank out a load bound for San Francisco. It was an owner operator's load, but he weaseled out of going into the big town to get it. I had to go in, get it from the Marriott on 34th Street, and then drop it in Columbus, Ohio. He backed under it in a nice easy yard in Columbus and took off. As I watched him drive away, it hit me like a bolt of lightning that I'd been had. Of course, he had his CB off as he was pulling away. Man I was pissed. I hope both he and my dispatcher enjoyed getting one over on me because it never happened again. And as soon as I started standing up for myself, I started having problems at that terminal. The insiders didn't like newbies who had backbones. It rocked the boat too much. It's no surprise that it wasn't long before I was gone.

    A few times I was the patsy for more experienced drivers while I was at Swift, but I learned fast to be nobody's fool. Part of my learning was to leave companies like Swift in a cloud of dust if and when I encountered those types of problems.

    Never again, man. Never again.
     
  9. outlaw672

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    I was just looking at the Swift web page and looked at there wages and beni's. Could anyone verify this ? or are these normal eaning's

    "
    Example 1
    • Dry van – Western U.S.
    • Single driver
    • One year of experience
    • 2,100 miles driven per week
    • Annual pay – approximately $41,112
    Example 2
    • Dry van – Western U.S.
    • Driving team
    • Three years of experience
    • 4,000 miles driven per week
    • Annual pay – approximately $88,708
    Example 3
    • Dry van – Western U.S.
    • Driver/Mentor Level 1
    • Five years of experience
    • 3,600 miles driven per week
    • Annual pay – $81,709 + $11,520 bonus potential – approximately $93,229
    Example 4
    • Flatbed – Western U.S.
    • Single driver
    • Five years of experience
    • 2,100 miles driven per week
    • Annual pay – approximately $48,756
    Example 5
    • Dry van – Eastern U.S.
    • Single driver
    • Three years of experience
    • 2,100 miles driven per week
    • Annual pay – approximately $45,480
    Example 6
    • Dry van – Eastern U.S.
    • Driving team
    • Five years of experience
    • 4,000 miles driven per week
    • Annual pay – approximately $97,028
    Example 7
    • Dry van – Eastern U.S.
    • Driver/Mentor Level 2
    • Six years of experience
    • 3,600 miles driven per week
    • Annual pay – $87,325 + $11,520 bonus potential – approximately $98,845
    Example 8
    • Flatbed – Eastern U.S.
    • Single driver
    • Three years of experience
    • 2,100 miles driven per week
    • Annual pay – approximately $46,572
    * These figures reflect estimated earning potential for each relative position and are not, and should in no way be construed as, guaranteed compensation. Miles can and do fluctuate."

    Effective December 1, 2006, will pay significantly higher rates for loaded dispatches under 300 miles.

    IT seems like a lot of money if you want to become a mentor!

    acording to this A mentor needs at least 5 years of experience to be a mentor maybe there's been a rule change.I have read on this forum that there are mentors with 3 months of experience?? (Scary!!)

    I have also read alot of realy bad things about Swift terminals down in the South or on the east coast.But I really havent found anything bad about the teminals on the west coast up north yet(I havent read all the forums yet).Is there any difference? Are they better?
     
  10. Tip

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    Hmmm. I could have five year's experience and be a mentor at Swift for 93K a year? Yeah, right. On paper it may be true, but reality at Swift is far from what you will read on a fancy website. I know this is true, and it's not just because I worked for Swifty once. I know because of this reality: people don't quit good jobs, at least not in droves. If one really COULD make the kind of money at Swift they claim, that company would have no turnover. Or at least it'd be a lot less than it is now.

    Sensible guys will never get to the income plateu Swift claims they can reach. This is because those guys won't stick around long enough to start making that kind of mulla, as they won't take Swift's abuse for too long.

    I know if I could make 90K a year driving the total miles they claim I'd have to drive to make that kind of income, I'd be doing exactly that. Lots of other guys would be doing it too. In fact, so many would be doing it that Swift would have no reason to advertise those jobs, as there'd be no openings.

    But last I checked, SwiftCo has plenty of openings, openings for supposedly good jobs that pay 90K+.

    THINK. And stay the hell away from Swift. Their slick brochures, dreamworld websites, and smiling recruiters are only trying to sucker you into one of the worst companies in trucking.
     
  11. whispers65233

    whispers65233 Medium Load Member

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    When vickw was giving his pitch about how a new driver averages 1800-2000 miles a week I when to this site and read what it said. I thought to myself what bs! The newbie stated he wanted to gross $3,000.00. I told him that at 30 cents per mile he would have to run 2500 miles a week for four weeks. Then I went on to say that I don't see where Swift comes up with their 4112 number for a yearly income the first year. When vickw tried to explain it away that's when I said "so I guess Swift's site is misleading"? I tried to be scarcastic. :biggrin_2559:
     
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